“Indie Rock?” I hear you ask…”surely not!” But alas, the bogan, or at least a small subset of the bogan – the same subset that brings Kings of Leon to the top of the Hottest 100, no doubt – are broadening their musical reach. These trendsetting bogans are on a mission, a mission to appear cool to bogans everywhere by unveiling to those bogans new music that has been publicly available for at least six months.
This year, sometime around November, these bogans will seek out, say, LCD Soundsystem, or perhaps Vampire Weekend. They will regale their less enlightened compatriots with the sheer awesomeness of this new band that has four full length albums and countless production credits. To build their credibility beyond all doubt, they will attend the gig when the band comes out over summer. And they will sing along heartily.
But only to the choruses.
The bogan, lacking sufficient attention span, or genuine desire, to listen to a song more than five times, will decide that it will suffice to learn the words to the chorus or main hook of the band’s lead single, and rehearse a rousing rendition. This rendition will be offered, pro bono, to other fans at the band’s gig. Come the first line of the second verse of ‘One Crowded Hour’, however, the bogan trails off in pool of mumbling incoherence. Bored now with the verse-y bits it does not know, it turns to its less-cool friend it brought and begins a conversation about how wasted it is, with little regard for those who may enjoy the verse-y bits.
When the band has exhausted the three songs JJJ has played, the bogan’s boredom reaches the threshold where going to the bar is the only option. In its clueless and blustering shove-through to the bar, the bogan bumps into some hapless hipster, who’s busy trying to look as if he’s only there because he was on the door. The hipster drops his Leffe Blonde, and tries to look annoyed, bored and non-threatening at the same time. Unfortunately, he cannot avoid rolling his eyes, and that’s enough for the bogan, who takes a swing and is consequently turfed out by security and barred for life. By morning, this story has transformed itself into an epic tale where the bogan took on five Maori security guards and won, then went home with a corporate lawyer-cum-lingerie model. Oh, after he saw an awesome, cred-inducing gig of indie rock.
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rusty nails and andy glitre are turning in their graves.
you have to blame jjj for this.
inadvertantly the national youf network has brought “alternative” music to the bogues. the massive footprint which seemed so full of promise to us back in the nineties has swept up a massive catch of bogans who can’t get past the chorus and the swear words. put swear words in the chorus and then chuck it into the high rotation cycle et voila.
I mean Mumford and Sons?
Bluegrass?
I did not see that coming.
The warning signs were there back in the nineties. suddenly your mate wanted to borrow your Nirvana albums, and was gagging to tell you about the new live album by throwing copper. I tried to tell them then that Pearl Jam would be the band they would pretend they were listening to ten years ago ten years from now, but they wouldn’t listen.
and now we’re watching a bunch of brainless, feckless, shirtless morons forming a circle mosh at lily allen.
we touched on festivals recently didn’t we?
what festival lineup would keep the bogans away?
I have the answer. Regina Spektor.
Have a Regina Spektor festival and NO-one will turn up.
then you can show up with some earplugs and a good book and get some quiet time.
‘new live album by throwing copper’. Hehehehe
We can also blame radio stations such as Nova, who take the least threatening indy songs and play them on high rotation. ‘One Crowded Hour’ is the perfect example of this. I have a great Augie March story I could tell. I might save it for later.
LOL. Augie March.
1. Band from a bogan town (Shepparton) – check
2. Named after literary character with hipster cred – check
3. Single with obscure lyrics – check
All ticked off – bogan gold!
I mean, how could “One Crowded Hour” NOT have been JJJ’s #1 in whatever year it first assaulted us?
I’m going to tell my story now, before I don’t care anymore. Apologies in advance for long-windedness.
Before ‘One Crowded Hour’ I had seen Augie March in very non crowded conditions many times. Notably at Splendour in the Grass many years ago, the first time it was a 2 day festival. They played in the morning on the second day and there were less than 50 of us there. I even had a little nap in the shade of the expansive tent. Come 2006 Splendour, and people were lining up (!?) to get into the tent to see this awesome ‘new’ band. Being festival veterans, my paramour and I refused to line up and made our way to the entrance. We were accosted by some bogan skanks who had clearly never been to a festival before ‘One Crowded Hour’ and were arguably too old to make their debut. “You can’t push in! We’ve been waiting for an hour!” It all got very heavy with many a Nova listener weighing into the argument. To cut a long story short, we walked away, insults flung at our backs, bypassed the line, straight into the tent, obtaining prime seats.
Poor Augie March has some serious sound issues and played an absolutely god awful set. There was much tension on the stage. The bogans were becoming increasingly vocal and volatile. After about 20 minutes, the singer said “F*ck it, we’ll just play the f*cking single”. Much cheering ensued. 4 minutes later the tent was empty and we ‘enjoyed’ a version of ‘Hole in your Roof’ with only half the instrumentation audible.
so… because you seen the band before you get preferential treatment. bogeish behaviour i think
No. My point was I had never before seen lining up to see a band at a festival. It’s not protocol. It’s similar to the velvet rope phenomenon, only the rope was imagined.
LOL. Dare I say it? Yes, I dare. You were the “only one in the room” left to see “Hole in your Roof” after AM’s sound issues led to their “wreck and ruin”.
oh my
Ah yes, Hole in Your Roof…Sunset Studies is one of those gorgeous, evocative albums that causes your toes to tingle; make you laugh, cry and realise there is some pretty bloody good Australian music out there………Augie March became a victim of their own success. I’ll just go back and listen to The Offer and There Is No Such Place and pretend One Crowded Hour never happened…………….
One Crowded Hour is a good song, to be fair. It’s the audience that’s the problem.
I just missed out on Augie March. my friends had been raving about them, but i figured i’d see them later… after all, they’d always be playing small rooms, right?
i met Glenn Richards after playing 4 shows in a row at the Hopetoun and he looked exhausted
then BAM One Crowded Hour hit. i’ve seen them a few times. great band but the crowd sucks
ahh, all this reminiscing makes me want to go back and listen to Sunset studies and Waltz myself… Asleep in Perfection and Moth Ball – now they were great songs!
I’m sure I have posted an earlier comment on one of the TBL posts many moons ago about how I’ve always been torn when a band like Augie March, who I remember going to see at the Corner for $8 almost a decade ago, hits it big with a song like One Crowded Hour (which, for the record, I quite like, but possibly not as much as Cold Acre if we’re talking about Moo you Bloody Choir songs).
I always wanted more recognition for them, but then when that recognition turns into bogan popularity for a fleeting moment in time and when their songs start getting played on stations like Nova, I just want to be able to go back to those days of $8 gigs and relative obscurity for the band….
Moo you Bloody Choir LOL.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/30/40-indie-music/
In the course of the day, everything in this link will be substantiated by TBL posters, esp “Remember, popular artists can turn unpopular in a heartbeat”.
I’s only a song, folks.
I heard them very early on and my fave songs were and still are Rich Girl and Owen’s Lament. However, I am chuffed about their success as I did not think they would get it and they deserve the dosh.
who are you?
Sten, I can answer for the fact that you are certainly a typographical error nazi who never starts a sentence with a capital letter.
For the record: It’s only a song, folks
technically typography doesn’t concern itself with grammar/punctuation. Its the design of type/font so if a typographer wanted to design a font or piece of text that didn’t include capital letters then that would still be a legitimate piece of typography.
(Sorry I saw the word nazi and got excited)
*than (rolling eyes)
No doubt the excitement was due to a renewed opportunity to use “Godwin’s Law”.
Out our way its “typos” for most slip-ups.
Given the general quality of comments we could all be complete pedants and spend all day correcting people’s posts.
I have a moustache and a pair of brown pants will that do ?
so is that Godwin’s?
oops ok.
gee
we’re all gowin’s godwin’s godwin’s
round here.
🙂
I just want to weigh back in on the swear words thing…
because I suspect if mumford had ‘stuffed’ or ‘mucked’ it up we would never have heard from them.
almost the least bogan band in the world – Radiohead.
had One ‘hit’ song.
yes that one.
I couldn’t imagine any other radiohead song going over at a bogan gig.
not even thom yorke doing black swan.
this is fucked up
Absolutely! But just don’t get me started on Killing In The Name Of (terribly, terribly overrated) or anyhing by Limp Bizkit…
It’s “Killing in the Name”. It gives me the shits when people call it “Killing in the Name of”. Same as “Just a Girl” by No Doubt. It’s not “I’m just a Girl”
Sorry Sten, but I equate the people you call it “Killing in the Name of” with the same people who only like it because they can yell “Fuck You! I won’t do what you tell me!” at the end of the song.
Righto A-Bomb, but let me dispel any notions of yours that I enjoy Rage Against the Machine by saying that I find the Bogue love of swearing along with “Killing in the Name” to be tiresome in the exxxtreme. My brother is bass player in a rather good band, and I’m always disappointed when they end their set with that particular aural turd – especially when their original songs (90% of what they play) are proof of why it’s worth listening to local acts.
I also find the irony of the Bogue’s love of “Killing in the Name” delicious. RATM are well known for their oustopken left-wing sympathies, yet the average Bogue screeching along to the end of the song would probably have voted for Pauline Hanson had they been old enough at the time.
But… they use swears! They must be good.
“Cannibal animal ire” – an excellent lyric, and a reason to like “Killing in the Name”
That would be a reason to like “Bulls on Parade”
Cover band…. meh.
I deny I love the song. In fact, whilst bunking out of the Pony Club at 3am many moons ago, I was almost kicked to death by furious kick-boxing bogans who invaded the dancefloor…not because they were furious, I believe they were ‘dancing in angst’. It’s bogan fodder of the highest order.
ah, the male bogan angry dance – you need to look almost like you’re fighting to prove how extreme you are. the female equivalent is what i like to call ‘flailing limbs girl’, after one girl who, with arms out and flying about, managed to clear a space of at least a square metre around her lest anyone be whacked in the face. and she still managed to stumble into my friend a couple of times.
Oh yes, there are some graceful femme-bogue alternatives, escillating to dancing onstage with the band.
DJ’s should know better than to enduce a dancfloor riot whilst the band is struggling with 40kg amplifiers on a beer soaked dancefloor, but the artist is at the bottom of the totum pole, so who would really care?
Would they be the much-despised breed of meat-headed bogan known as the ‘Pit Ninja’?
You see them at gig flailing their arms and practicing their half-assed capoiera moves in the mosh-pit.
A friend of mine was at a hardcore gig one time and he saw this bogan kicking people in the head as they came near him. So he got behind this idiot, waited for him to go for a big sweeping kick then swept his other foot out from under him.
This guy hit the floor like a sack bricks and all the other punters jumped in and started kicking the shit out of him.
…and Rick Astley hasn’t toured Australia since.
A similar thing when bogans always add ‘The’ to movie titles that don’t have them.
For example: “I went saw THE GLADIATOR last night. It was farkin’ sick ‘n that.”
Or: “Me missus made us watch THE TITANIC. Farkin’ poofy load of shit…” he says, wiping his still-red eyes from the tears he will deny to the death that he shed.
Another example is The Eels instead of just ‘Eels’. I am guilty of this myself, though, because without the ‘the’ it sounds weird. “I went to see Eels last night, it was awesome”, “I bought Eels CD”.
I think with bands the is ok, like Pixies. The band is called Pixies but you go to see the Pixies? Any pendants out there to help?
JimC is spot on about movies though.
Yep
“seeing pixies”
sums it up!
Then there’s Talking Heads. And Dead Kennedys… I heard Jello Biafra refer to them sans definite article in an interview.
Well isn’t that funny. I just finished watching a documentary on Punk: Attitude
I love that name, Jello Biafra.
Pixies best song-Cannonball
That’s a joke, right?
Come on Brad.
You’re taking the piss!
Right?
Not even The Breeders best song.
like throwing pellets at at a trout farm,sorry simon couldnt resist i was going too say Gigantic,but thought i would go for the glass.havnt listened too Pixies for years or The Breeders, old flame from long ago loved both and i remember seeing The Breeders at the olde POW many years ago,love the lists guys -fricken hilarious
I’m not sure how a pendant out there might help you, so best leave it to the pedants instead.
doves
Haha Jim, they do that a lot on the Gold Coast (surprise surprise) – to venues and locations.
So much so that my friend and I have started adding “the”s in front of really obviously inappropriate places and subtracting the ones that should be there.
It turns their heads inside-out. The figuratively.
was banned from being sung in the army, late 90’s. i suspect it was because the fuck you bit was sung whilst looking in a junior officers general direction.
“I suspect if mumford had ’stuffed’ or ‘mucked’ it up we would never have heard from them.”
But… Bogan radio (ie commercial FM stations like Nova) blanks out the “fucked it up” line…
the Mumford and Sons song keeps Triple J’s core audiences happy on both fronts. Bogans like it coz it’s got swear words n’ shit, and hipsters like it because it’s a few beardy guys who look like they live in Fitzroy or Brunswick (Melbourne ppl will know what I mean), they play banjo which is so “ironic” or whatever (cue bored/annoyed/non-threatening look).
Sometimes I can’t decide who I despise more. Whimsical try-hard hipsters, or aggressive ignorant bogans.
Not gonna lie, I love Mumford & Sons. They remind me of Weddings Parties Anything (another 90s band that crossed over to pick up a fair few bogan fans).
that just make’s it even weaker.
and more bogan of course.
… they can yell out “fucked” over the bleep or space or whatever.
1. because they think they are the only ones who know that’s what the word should have been.
2. ‘cos they’re not taking it from the MAN man. can’t bleep out my Xtreme language!
This is the most shitful post so far for this blog. Augie March & Mumfuck and Sons do fucking suck and watching bogans clumsily sing along to them may be the only sense of entertainment one might get out of watching those miserable cocks.
But with an intimidating surname like that, it will attract bogans (hopefully thinking she is a hawt stunna), and then disappoint them heavily.
I call her Ragyna
If noone wants to turn up to a Regina Spektor concert, don’t worry I would be happy if I was the only audience member. She is adorable
Regina Spektor is awesome ….just quietly. ‘Us’ or ‘Samson’ are personal fav’s. My mate likes ‘Fidelity’ and ‘On the radio’ if anyones keen to get their ITunes on…. and by ITunes I mean being cheap and using Youtube or Limewire.
Ha! I love it. Brings many a memory to the forefront of my mind.
My 23 year old brother has recently discovered Nirvana. He asked me if I knew the song ‘I’m Depressed’. An argument ensued when I told him there was no Nirvana song with that name. After much clicking through itunes, it became apparent that he meant ‘Something in the Way’.
Nice job on sticking it to the hipsters.
“Nice job on sticking it to the hipsters”
Didn’t you start up Shock records?
Was it you who ignited the Sun?
busy, busy, busy.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Or why.
LOL. “… that’s enough for the bogan, who takes a swing… ” surely with glass in hand, the aim being an x-treme glassing of said hipster (read c*nt)?
Damn – you beat me to it!
Was thinking exactly the same thing…
LOL. Great minds. 😉
And yours and mine. 😐
Wow!
I’m blushing Fiona…
You’ve made my week with that one!
LOL. Perhaps my meaning wasn’t clear then. I was contrasting the old saying “great minds think alike” with the fact that on this occasion, your lesser mind thought similarly to my great one.
Maybe so… but you still used 2 x smiley’s in one post (not a common occurance)… So I still feel spoilt…
Je suis folle pour toi Fiona…
😉
LOL. The second one was an ironic grimace.
😐 <– see?
Oh I see it…
but it was two smiley’s all the same… 😉 🙂
Maybe its because its Friday???
But you have been – bubbly today to say the least…
And your proven knowledge of Augie March was heart warming…
LOL. I have taken on board some of the criticism directed at me and am attempting (as much as I can) to interact with you all in a more natural way.
I thought you were just playing “hard to get”…
LOL. Well, I am “hard to get” (“impossible” in your particular case), but that’s a whole other story.
Fi,
an “ironic grimace” from you?
surely
with “iconic grace” would be more “you”
Get a chat room you two 😉
Ah an indie rock post near about the anniversary of Kurt Cobain’s death
and on the day of Malcolm McLaren’s
death.
Malcolm McLaren’s death???
Yep. The creator of the world’s first boy band died this morning, aged 64.
LOL. Never mind, he’s with his career now.
Gold. Pure Gold Fiona.
I’d say The Monkees were probably the first boy band.
They were a complete fabrication who just happened to have really great songwriters working for them.
I stand corrected.
True – and they were meant to be just a laugh, right?
The one and only Neil Diamond
Vale Malcolm McLaren.
P*nk as Fuck.
I’m not too sure I’d be calling the Sex Pistols “indie”… all they did was cash in on what working-class British youth had been doing for some years already.
Basically anything that doesn’t come out of the manufactured pop industry would be labelled indie. Despite indie being a term used a few years later than SP
Yeah I think the term ‘indie’ changes all the time, as the industry changes.
if you wanted true “indie” as in independent these days, surely you’d go to you tube or the blogsphere. It would be pretty fair to say if you heard it on the radio, there ain’t nothing independent about it.
It used to come under Alternative. but somewhere in the 90’s that came to mean Pearl Jam. (segmentation means nickelback started out as “alternative”).
what do we call our music?
Sorry Chubster, whilst the ‘indie’ tag does derive from independent, it wasn’t referring to the band as such.
It refers to the fact that the band was on an independent record label (Au Go Go, Red Eye, Splurt etc).
So, you could still be played on radio and be an indie band…. til the big labels got hip to the fact that signing on to a big label damaged cred and set up smaller ‘indie’ labels…and now the whole thing is a mess!! 😉
ah yes.
sorry. in rant mode.
Dont lets get back to the is it in the dictionary ,is it a word thingey again while ignoring common usage and language evolution.
I don’t believe anyone was.
oh but its so fun to split semantic and definitional hairs, james hunter. don’t take that away from us.
actually overheard on the train this morning: “didn’t he drive racing cars?”
😦
Maybe Kingsmill is a marketing genius…..
Great, cue much hipster handwringing as we defend bands we love against accusations of garnering bogan love.
I shall start with pointing the finger at Bon Iver. Femmebogues love their stuff.
I shall wring my hands not. I sleep secure in the knowledge Bogues won’t touch 95% of my music.
I shall cite Modest Mouse’s “Dashboard” which splashed down a few years ago with a glitzy clip and whale shark sized hooks in it absolutely reeeking indie cred (I mean Johnny Marr?). Probably the finest crafted indie pop song of the modern era, and the bogues wouldn’t touch it.
The oervre of Isaac Brock is sooo worth checking out.
*gush*
Hang on a minute.
People still listen to commercial radio?
*points and PMSL at all here present*
I had a Dirty Three gig ruined by people talking loudly through the “quiet bits”. Bogue behaviour displayed by wanna-bes.
Was the gig in a pub, because if it was then it’s not the venue to listen to music. In pubs, musicians are just entertainment for the night out – if you want to hear a band perfectly you need to buy the music and use headphones or go to a dedicated concert.
I’m sure every band would love to have a dedicated venue, but it doesn’t work that way. There’s probably a quite simple rule to be applied to these situations – if you don’t want to listen to the band, please feel free to fuck off.
I must add, that hipsters sitting on the floor and preventing happy punters from pressing closer or dancing is equally as annoying. I used to kick punters who sat on the floor if they were within reach…I wasn’t surprised, nor disappointed when our audiences dropped.
The Dirty Three have had their gigs ruined by bogans since about 1995…bogans do love Warren and his unpredicable behaviour (so longs as its someone elses teeth being smashed in by a wayward microphone stand). Barely a show goes by that doesn’t get talked over, or where a fight breaks out in the audience. Avoid.
Yeah or having gigs ruined by bogues holding up their mobile phones.
Ha, there’s another TBL entry. Taking absolutely worthless photos with mobile phones.
I miss the days of when 35mm film photography was the only viable option for the consumer. You had to at least “work” on your shots otherwise you would be burning through your roll of film quickly.
Anynominousmouse
So very true
must admit to retiring my 1972 Praktica LTL recently for a Panasonic G1. Having taken the plunge Im more then happy but the shitty pics people take with phones are hardly worthy of the term.
Also note the hundreds of tiny flashlights going of on cheap cameras at gigs and concerts. Pics never come out the flash range is about 3to maybe 5 mtrs.
Haha, JH, I always laugh at that! At sporting events, especially the Sydney Olympics, I’ve been very amused.
I always imagine the poor souls having to look at the dull photos they took of apparently nothing.
When travelling, unless you’re a skilled photographer, any photos without someone you know in them are just poor versions of postcards.
I always find it better to actually experience something while you are there instead of looking at it through a lens.
Gee Edna,
Its not that hard to do both. Or is it?
Once again James, your finger is firmly on the pulse.
Hey James, I’m sorry.
I didn’t mean to be rude.
Short of setting up a facebook page for you, I would like to tell you how I admire the way you take criticism sir!
With my fragile ego there would be no hope. I would have either left or be found swinging from the shower curtain by now.
So what I wanted to say was Bravo!
You have a stronger backbone than I.
One to be admired!!
Vampire Weekend, I’m afraid, has already caught the attention of the masses. Whoever said it was right to blame JJJ for this – you’re quite right.
Can we have a post on “Aussie” hip-hop? Seriously, nothing is more bogan than that tripe. We can blame JJJ for that as well.
JJJ shove Australian hip-hop down our throats, which in turn led to the Hilltop Hoods being the highest rated Australian and hip-hop entry in last years Hottest 100 of All Time. Seriously, The Nose Bleed Section? Best Aussie song ever? Best hip-hop song ever? I guess Grandmaster Flash, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, NWA etc. have nothing on the the lyrical genius of these Hoods from the Adelaide Hills. “Watchin’ friday night footy in my hoodie yakkin’ harder” or “Fly to Libya for some Bacardi with Gadafi-a”. Hip-hop in general has given us classic tunes like White Lines, The Message, Burn Hollywood Burn etc, where Aussie hip-hop gives us songs called FIGJAM and Jimmy Rickard.
Were The Hilltop Hoods responsible for the lyrics ‘… something something…. local fish and chip shop AHHH SCALLOPS! With dallops of flavour on top…’?
Whoever was responsible should be severely punished.
Thankyou for bringing back the painful memory of AHHH SCOL-LOPS!!! to me. My ears have once again resumed bleeding.
I’m truly sorry, but glad not to be carrying the burden on my own.
Yet another reason I choose to listen to Dylan. I am completely unaware of what you are talking about.
LOL. Should I laugh? Or cry…
I wish I knew.
LOL. What ARE “fish and chips” exactly, anyway?
While I’m sure you’ve never ingested such fare, I’m also sure you have encountered mention of it in your extensive readings, Fiona.
No Fish and Chips in the Bronte sisters books Shirl.
I’m sure Dickens makes mention of it.
LOL. Of course, hence my question – your comment made me realise that now might be a good time to ask.
Fish and chips are an English delicacy which we Australians have also grown to love.
The fish (most often cod) is usually battered and deep fried. Chips are bits of potato – also deep fried. These tasty morsels will be covered in salt and wrapped in paper. Best consumed on the beach.
LOL. “Battered”? Like beaten? Is it to make it more tender because cod is such a poor quality fish? I never realised “chips” referred to potato, either.
Fascinating.
I’m sure you are familiar with tempura. Batter is like that, only stodgy.
or flake…
LOL. Like a thick tempura then? Hmm, sounds interesting. Should I try and procure some?
Of course. You must resist the urge to eat it from a plate with a knife and fork. The paper is important. The more transparent it goes, the tastier the food. If you are really lucky, you’ll get chips that taste like fish, because the deep fryer oil will be vintage.
Oh! What a lark you shall have.
LOL. You make it sound like it should be washed down with lashing and lashings of ginger ale!
And if I was to send a servant out now, would they be available?
And do they just ask for “fish and chips” and that’s the proprietor of the establishment needs to know?
Ginger beer is preferable to ginger ale.
I’m sure your servant will be well versed in ordering fish and chips, but just in case I’m wrong, instruct them to ask for one piece of battered fish and a minimum of chips.
Enjoy.
LOL. I asked them to get them for me and they refused. 😦
Chef is throwing pots and pans around in the kitchen as I write.
You need more control over your employees, Fiona.
LOL. Every now and then one must let them have their head of steam.
Of course, it helps knowing that their hearts are in the right place.
england’s only contribution to global cuisine
What about spotted dick? I’ve never tried it, but it’s got a funny name, so that’s cool.
LOL. I’ve spotted one or two in my time. ;-p
You’ve never requested chef make you fish and chips when you’ve felt like slumming it Fiona?
LOL. No, but on the advice of one of my twitter followers, I did ask him to make me a pizza once. Dear Lord, he was NOT happy.
Fish & chips are something to feed the sprogs on mother’s day at the restaurant near the top of eureka tower – price of said fish & chips has been set at $45!
LOL. So a very cheap way of eating then?
and don’t you have to pay $9/head for the lift up there?
or was that cntrepoint?
Fi,
Cod and chips in newspaper? is the same as tempura reef fish and pommes frites in the sort of place you or I would attend.
My last post is awaiting moderation… hopefully goes thru soon…
Regarding a song similar to Hilltop that certainly is catchy to the bogan…
If it doesn’t ‘pass’ the TBL test, i’ll re-post shortly…
No, that was The Herd in a delightful romp quite a few years ago. Bit of a pisstake really.
They’ve come a long way.
I believe that was The Herd. But at least they ventured beyond “beers and mates” theme with Burn down the parliament.
The Herd – 77%?
Nah, The Herd are too little-Johnny bashing for the CUB.
I was thinking more of a song that JJJ were running a couple of years back that certainly would appeal to the Bogan…
Butterfingers – Everytime…
Everytime I clean me room, I make another mess
Everytime I miss the bus, I am late for a test
Everytime I?m reincarnated, it’s in the lowest form
I leave my window open every time there is a storm
Everytime I have a hangover, I have to go to work
Everytime I masturbate dry, it tends to hurt
Everytime I pat a dog, it bites me on the hand
Everytime I talk to aliens, they don?t understand
Everytime I skate, I get another bruise
Everytime I get drunk, I vomit on my shoes
Everytime I scratch, the needle jumps
Everytime I drink milk, it comes out in lumps
Everytime I freestyle, I just talk shit
Everytime I catch the bus, there is no where to sit
Everytime I catch a train, Im hassled for a ticket
Everytime I bat in cricket, 1st ball takes a wicket
Everytime I?m drunk at a party in a toga, I pull a damn hamstring to prove I do yoga
Everytime I eat, I get a pain in my chest
Everytime I thinks it?s heartburn, it?s cardiac arrest
Everytime I make a call, call waiting interrupts
Everytime I dump a load at someone?s house, it won?t flush
Everytime it won?t flush, it stains the ceramic
If you ever see me happy it because I?m manic
It?s not easy being me
It?s not easy being me
Everytime I give advice, it comes out wrong
Everytime I get raided, my prints are on the bong
Everytime I score, I get shitty leaf
I was living with a navaho until he heard me diss the chief
Everytime we smoke a joint, I end up with the roach
Everytime I skip sport, I get drilled by the coach
But every time I play footy, I get tackled in the dirt
And I crack another rib and it really fuckin hurts
Everytime I brush my teeth, I find another cavity
Everytime I try to fly, I discover gravity
Everytime I have a craving, I run out of food
Everytime we spin the bottle, I?m the 1 who ends up nude
Everytime I give a girl an orgasm, she fakes
Everytime I jam it in, the condom breaks
Everytime I gamble, I lose all my chips
Everytime I eat “All Bran” I get the shits
But everytime I shit, it takes about an hour
And there?s never any paper so I have to have a shower
But everytime I shower the towel is already wet
And it?s not wet with water but wet with cum n’ sweat
Everytime I pluck my pubic hairs to make myself attractive
My dick gets sore and I fuck like a spastic
Everytime I write a song, radio stations ban it
Cause when you play my records in reverse they?re satanic
Worship Satan, (x8)
Everytime I make a joke, people take me serious
Everytime I go down on a girl, she?s on her period
Everytime I drive a car, a cop will pull me over
But I say I?m someone else and that I?m sober
Every blind date turns out to be blind
My looks are all I have and that is why I mind
Everytime I have the dream where I?m at the school dance
Everyone is looking at me cause I don?t have any pants
Everytime we play piggy in the middle, I?m the pig
Everytime we play tiggy, I?m the 1 who?s it
Everytime I lick toad, I get warts on my tongue
Everytime I see a killer bee, It?s when i’m gettin stung
Everytime I play scrabble, I make the word ?At”
Every wet fart, leaves a stain where I sat
Everytime I fuck your mum, she wants it in the bum
And everytime I?m done, it?s not because I?ve come
Everytime I crack onto a chick, I pull my sack out
Everytime I try to suck my dick, I put my back out
Everytime I catch a wave, I hit a coral reef
And everytime I order vegetarian, I get beef
The bogan would never order vegetarian. TBL
Very true…
though the other 50 lines are almost spot on!
it’s missing the line “a chicken’s not a vegetable.”
The bogan doesn’t listen to the lyrics it just likes that Aussie Hip-hop sound
p.s 28days came before the Herd no?
Haha Frankstons finest! I remember they played a Freeza gig in my hometown and refused to let the local paper photograph them until they were in their correct poses.
Aussie hip hop – apart from being tripe – MUST include The Herd’s “Scallops” – this song is everything that is wrong with hip hop. Rubbish talking over bad casio backing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR34eyS-1Q4
But that’s the Herd before they bought into the bogan trend of pop-progressive self-loathing and misuse of statistics with “77%”
Mind you, how the bogan can reconcile this song’s anti-australian lyrics with their southern cross tattoo might make for a brain-melting paradox…
At least some other hip hop acts have a semblence of musicality.
FOF!
“Mind you, how the bogan can reconcile this song’s anti-australian lyrics with their southern cross tattoo might make for a brain-melting paradox…”
I’ve oftened wondered this myself. The song and lyrics are brilliant. The bogan must have to perform some contortionist type mental gymnastics to sing along to this.
FOF!
Aussie hip-hop is more bogan than Shannon Noll. The Herd, in particular, should be garrotted mid-‘song’ for that travesty alone.
Man,
You are like,
So f*cking
hard.
I might just bust some rhymes about how hard I am right now.
bfft, pptt, bfft bfft, pptt (*starts beat boxing*)
I aggree that aussie hip hop is aweful for the most part, but I don’t hold it against jjj, atleast they are making an attempt to support australian music. The real problem is that we have (in sydney atleast) 4-5 commercial stations that are virtually identical and play the top 10 on constant rotation and jjj which caters for ‘the rest’. It’s a huge gap to try and fill.
I listen to itunes radio and listen to whatever I’m in the mood for and don’t have to hear about nasal delivery spray and bogues calling in.
JJJ only play as much Australian music as they do because they are obliged to by their position as a government entity.
FOF!
True but at least it’s mostly new Australian music. And JJJ play more than the required 25%. (I think it’s 28% or thereabouts.)
Commercial radio just rehashes Barnsey, Farnsey, Cold Chisel, Oz Crawl etc etc. to make up their 25%. Pathetic!
FOF!
Muz: You’re only thinking of MMM, WSFM and Vega. 2Day and Nova get their 25% by rehashing Jessica Mauboy and Gabriella Cilmi.
simplistic.
reductionist.
wrong.
triple J with the gubmint made a viable industry out of ‘aussie’ music.
you claim to be a part of it.
Good point. I first heard Aussie Hip-Hip back in 2001. I can’t remember the name of the group or the song, but the chorus line contained “like a $3.40 bag of fresh hip-hop, from your local fish n chip shop, Ah Scallops!’.
When I heard this song, I didn’t know what was funnier. The fact that this song was laughably terrible or that the group releasing it seriously thought it was good.
Jerry: that song has already been mentioned above: “Scallops” by The Herd.
I will agree with you on the Vampire Weekend comment.
I was camping around Australia with my husband recently and it seemed that a couple of hours didn’t go by without hearing a goddam Vampire Weekend song.
I am sure they had it as album of the week twice in one month.
you people just don’t ‘get’ hip hop.
stop ripping on the kid’s music it just makes you look old.
I’d rather pull my own eyelids off than listen to the Hilltop Hoods.
But I did once work with a very nice and talented Aboriginal hip-hop act called The Last Kinnection.
Anyone remember that old Front End Loader song?
“Arnold Frollows you’re a genius…you broke The Badloves and you broke The Sharp”
I do. Great song. Great band.
arnold and barry chapman are the ones responsible for killing the triple J we mourn.
as a Hold Steady fan, this is great news for me. songs about drinking and girls and drugs? check! heaps of choruses? check! references to classic rock? check!
hopefully they’ll pick up some more Triple J airplay and get some more fans. and bogan or not… everyone is welcome at their shows
i’m slightly torn. while i agree people ruining concerts calling out for the one song they know and talking the rest of the time and generally thinking they know everything about everything in regards to particular bands, popularity and recognition do make it more likely that a band will tour. just to use a couple of examples of bands i like, i would adore seeing manic street preachers live, but i don’t think that the half dozen people i know who listen to them are enough to convince them to tour. and i don’t want to have to wait so long for british sea power to tour again (although i’m not sure what bogans would make of their live shows). so i guess somehow finding a middle ground – recognition and a fan base, but not lots of morons – is what is needed.
yeah, my two fave bands at the moment, The Hold Steady and the Gaslight Anthem, kinda depend on druken singalongs and that sort of communal live energy. more fans is a good thing
you could try standing under one of those free showers they have at the beach. that would be a lot like an authentic Manics experience.
😛
oh chubby!
you’re wicked!
just you wait. there’s a glass with your name on it and it’ll come when you least expect it.
I personally wouldn’t be blaming the J’s… With exception to hotest 100 day, most bogan’s would never think of tuning their radio to JJJ… These songs do not become popular with the bogan masses until Nova (or something similar) picks them up after JJJ has taken the risk of people not liking the song, which they do frequently (eg their shit or hit segment)…
no the bogan masses have been listening to triple j for quite some time now I think you’ll find.
It annoys me that they pride themselves on promoting Australian artists, of course they’ll only promote your band if you play aus hip-hop or bland, safe rock. If you play metal, punk, etc they might play you once in the short allocated time slot they save for music that doesn’t fall into the hip/hop and generic rock genres and the allocated time slot is once a week late at night.
BOO! triple J BOO!
They’ve been listening to JJJ for as long as they have been going to the Big Day Out.
Boo indeed, Jo. I used to love Three Hours of Power, back when I used to predominantly listen to metal.
They had some metal segment on last tuesday night (around 10pm), i’d assume its on weekly. You never get to hear metal on the radio. I’m a fan, but i’m not really in the metal scene so i rarely get to hear hear anything new.
It annoys me that not just Australian metal bands but punk/hardcore and other neglected genres don’t get spots in prime air-time
I’m not sure where you’re from, Jo, but I remember the days when Sydney’s 2SER even used to play Industrial and other stuff the Bogan would call “fuckin’ weird shit”.
Good time, good times.
Full Metal Racket is the program and on Wednesdays Short, Fast, Loud plays the punk/hardcore stuff.
Triple j has alot of speciality shows to cater for different tastes, it just depends what you’re into.
yes but my point is they’re claim to supporting Australian bands has a sub-clause of *unless you don’t play hip-hop or generic-rock in which case we may play your song at 11pm on wednesday night because Missy Higgins and the Hilltop Hoods have taken up all the other air-time
Fair point. I don’t stay up for Short, Fast, Loud because of work commitments, but I do listen to the stream of the show on weekend. But yes, during regular listening hours, Australian music content seems to be dominated by previously mentioned Aussie hip-hop ‘artists’. A plan to split JJJ into 2 stations, similar to BBC Radio, has been raised from time to time, however Richard Kingsmill has shot down this idea in the past.
i’d like jjj to play more ‘pop’ sounding stuff -twee pop, folk pop, indie pop, whatever you want to describe it as – but music that has a strongly melodic and pop feel but isn’t top 40 mass produced stuff. sadly, jjj seem to continually narrow their range of music.
i’d also like if they played more older stuff – you rarely hear anything more than a couple of years old on jjj now.
yes their range defiantly needs to be expanded
Their range is quite big but only occasionaly, I’d also like it if they’d play more electronica/pop/dubstep instead of just rock and hip hop
JJJ plays nursery rhymes for adults
Fo sho….there’s no reason to listen to JJJ at all. Its a waste of space that serves purely as a springboard to commercial radio stations. The litmus test.
Why support them? Why buy their rubbish merch?
It’s because the ppl that listen to JJJ honestly believe they aren’t listening to commercial radio…..
Get into community radio like 4ZZZ, 3RRR and all that your city has to offer. Or? Sit back and be spoken at by overpaid ‘DJs’ and suffer through aural tripe!
bravo
3D
for the adelaidies
If you’re a HARD ROCKING band and you want some airtime you have to play the derivative kind like The Butterfly Effect, COG, Karnivool, or Dead Letter Circus.
Ten years ago it was nu-metal. Remember Superheist? *SHUDDERS*
Bogue is a proud non member of Superjesus if that helps.
Phew! Dodged a bullet there.
*i reckon i know who bogue is*
We actually had a few decent proper metal bands here in Australia before nu-metal came and took a long, high shit on the genre for about 7 years.
Allegiance was the one band that was set to break through in the mid-nineties. They supported Metallica and Slayer and released two fantastic albums, but just kind of disappeared.
Although who remembers the bogue-tastic Horsehead, with their one big hit ‘More Wine Waiter Please’?
Two of my old bands supported Horsehead, once when they toured Adelaide riding their success, once when they’d crashed and burned, at the Espy front bar. Can’t remember a thing about them. No doubt they wouldn’t remember much either, at least, not the way they were drinking.
Wasn’t More Wine by The Poor not Horsehead?
The Poor reformed and toured last year. Can’t say I attended…
I thought it was but I may be wrong.
You are correct sir, it was The Poor, who were originally called The Poor Cunts before dropping the last word to be a bit more radio friendly.
I’m disappointed that we’ve gone this far into this post without Muse being mentioned. For shame, TBL.
Having said that, cbf’s rantage at the very top of the comments this morning made me chuckle.
Yep, seeing Muse at the BDO after they released Absolution was the first time I noticed this phenomenon.
Sadly, I also saw it at Faith No More this year. Tickets for FNM were like hen’s teeth, but from where I was standing towards the back of the General area, everyone was around me was just standing looking at their shoes….. until they played Epic, everyone’s favourite rap/rock crossover pub song, and people started jumping around. Then they settled down for the next song.
I dunno – I was at the FNM show at the hordern this year (How I missed those Magnificent Bastards).
Keep in mind that FNM hadn’t toured or released any new material for 13 or so years, and us fans are not as spritely as once we were (not *that* old, but many of us have kids now…). Me and the missus ended up in the stands; and while we weren’t exactly dancing, all of us were definitely into it, and those around us clearly knew and loved the material.
I may be viewing this through rose coloured glasses though (I think they are actually may favourite all time band, and certainly my favourite live act) and I had an absolute wonderful time, and I saw a bunch of people feeling the same way. I haven’t seen that many smiles at a concert for ages.
Don’t get me wrong, the guys at the front were jumping around so hard it was violent, but not in a glassing c*nts kinda way. This was their second show in Melbourne btw, and even Mike Patton was astounded at how much they were getting into it.
It’s just the people around me really only perked up when they played Epic.
Would I be classed as a bogan if I admitted, this is the first time I’ve heard of “indy songs”?
Or just someone who lives in a cave?
I know of a lot singers and artists whose works I’m not the least interested in, but not this lot.
No, you’d be classed as someone who didn’t read/understand the article.
Alyssa, that should read “glassed”.
Haha, Simon. Quite true.
I prefer my comments to cut without drawing blood though (sometimes).
He’s obviously no clue at all though. So… *glass*.
Some people can benefit from a little bleed.
sounds like you don’t have much interest in music if you haven’t heard of the Indie genre
I call that kind of music ‘beardcore’.
Bogans and music are like their on bogue, ADHD riddled kids with new toys, they play with it non-stop for about 6 weeks until they get bored and move onto something newer, shinier and more x-treme. Regardless of their talent or lack thereof, bands/artists including but not limited to Jack Johnson, Xavier Rudd, Kings Of Leon, Pearl Jam (man, did the bogues love Better Man!), Gwen Stefani, John Butler, Green Day, Augie March, Franz Ferdinand and others were latched onto by bogues and boguettes like ticks onto a dog, until they’d had their had their fill and discarded them. So watch out Passion Pit, Vampire Weekend & British India you’re next.
yeh that pretty much sums up the bogan’s “on-the-go” iPod playlist.
The younger motorcross/minitruck sect of the bogan population also listen to Parkway Drive, System of a Down and Hilltop Hoods…coz they’re heaps Xtreme ‘n shit
System Of A Down seemed to be a popular request to the organisers of Soundave for 2011, along with Blink 182. I really hope Soundwave doesn’t go the way of the Bogue Day Out, with people getting tickets purely so they can say they went and not giving a shit about who’s playing.
the only soundwave line up that compelled me to attend was this years, it was much more eclectic, whereas most of the time its just scene-hardcore-pop/screamo junk. But at least its still sacred from the bogan for the most part, I too hope it doesn’t go the way of the “Bogue Day Out”
I suspect indy-bogue-hipsters may have played their part in voting Art Vs. Sciene “Parlez Vous Francais” to claim the No.2 spot in the most recent Hottest 100. They love a bit of randomised nonsense. Mechanized drumming, bleepy synth noises, monotone anthemic chanting, FAT fuzzy basslines, sloppy and noisey guitars. Aggressively ironic music.
I also blame these type of “music fans” for the popularity of La Roux.
i think you’re right on art vs science. i’d never heard the song before the countdown.
I thought that was the hipster equivalent of a prank?
La Roux.
ugh.
what is this shit sound of the eighties revival. boppy little twats and their machine emulator fucking casios.
I would LOVE to write a 1000 word explanation for this for you, but it’s outside of the scope of the TBL blog. It’s more “things gimmick-hungry-retro-referencing-trendsters-like”, which predictably trickles through to the bogan once it’s no longer cool.
Basically, the stuff that’s trendy is the stuff that was new 25 years ago. People aged 18-25 are the tastemakers in society, and anything that happened during their living memory can not be cool. Stuff that happened just outside of that time is ultra exciting for them to “discover”.
2003: The Vines, Jet, The Strokes. Late 70s, early 80s meat and potato rock. Rehashed as new for next generation.
2009: MGMT, Animal Collective, Presets. Mid 80s electro pop. Rehashed for next generation. Along with phat basketball boots, bright baggy clothes etc.
2012: Massive grunge revival. Bands full of people born in 1990 not yet famous. Stand by for repeat of patten.
TBL
insert “,” after shit.
🙂
I stand in awe of your passion, insight and talents sir.
I was musing today that the noughties (*snort*) revival in 25 years will be a f*cking riot.
wootwoot indeed.
It’s like when the movie Grease first came out. It was like overnight everyone wanted to ‘go back’ to the 50’s’. And it suited the bodgies and widgies (the old term for bogans) at the time who liked to be bikers. Funny how history repeats itself.
I got my head checked,
By a jumbo jet.
It wasn’t easy,
But nothin’ ih his..
no.
woo hoo
Surely damon albarn has something to answer here.
I don’t think Blur were indie to begin with. Probably not standard bogan fare but they were competing with Oasis for the title of biggest band in the (UK) world.
I like the Strokes- Last Nite as one of these songs.
LCD??
Surely Not!
I’m losing my edge!
…to the bogans,
coming in from the bus
in the tight… white…
pants!
they’re all “WESTERN MELBOURNE SCUUUUUM!!!”
ah hoooo!
bogans can’t do a falsetto hoot scream.
Ok, so I was just listening to JJJ and I made some discoveries.
Firstly, I just heard the new LCD Soundsystem song which has a chorus repeating, ‘Drunk girls’. Perfect for the bogue to get its shout on!
Somewhere a little electro punk fairy is dying.
A sad, sad day.
Secondly, onto some better news they did play Devo’s classic song, ‘Swelling Itching Brain’ which I am a huge fan of.
I also heard the Chemical brothers new song and I heard the outstanding news that Powderfinger are calling it a day.
I mean it really can’t get much better than that, can it?
So I say thank you JJJ for bringing me this news.
What more can one ask for?
Poor old JJJ. They used to have intelligent announcers who were passionate about music, think rogerson and spillane, frank leech, angela catterns, even adam and wil,but now we are stuck the doctor and tom ballard etc with their jokes for 12 year olds and Kingsmill in charge of music and his taste has always been up his arse. Don’t even start me on their love of lame songs with swear words. God I am getting old and wishing for the glory days. Play some real music ya c*unts.
Hear fricken hear.
I’m very disappointed with the Doctor, I’m sure if he could play what he really wanted to play mornings would be a pleasure to endure
Only if he keeps his mouth shut though.
I think he may have gone mad from having to become something he used to hate…Jackie O (Jay from Frenzal got out before he turned completely insane)
Jay and the Doctor were funny with their washed-up bitterness. I remember them coming back from a song saying, “And that was Moby with some shit he ripped off someone else.”
Indeed you may be getting old.
The greatest thing about JJJ in the 80’s and early 90’s was Announcer’s Choice.
Every hour, the DJ could play two songs of their choice, and f#$k the playlist. This was often the best way to hear genuinely new, different, or progressive stuff. They might play a new song from their mate’s band; some weird old blues or jazz they remembered from their dad’s collection, an 8-minute techno mix, or whatever they wanted.
There was no Kingsmillism dictating exactly what they had to play. There was no “Coming up after the news, a little bit of…” pre-announcing, MMM-style.
yes they should re-introduce the announcer’s choice, because I don’t think the announcer’s on triple j are all that bad, they’re just doing their jobs, I think some of them have a lot more they could offer musically.
Zan Rowe and Vijay pretty much have free reign during the day but i think triplejbreakkie is a bit more scripted.
Triple J’s not the station it used to be. When they went to air in Brisbane in November 1990, they were a lifeline, as my dictatorial, redneck stepfather banned me from listening to 4ZZZ (threatening to take everything out of my bedroom if he ever caught me listening to it). On Saturday nights, there was the request show ‘J Club’, where the announcer would literally play anything… Lard, Camper Van Beethoven, early Split Enz, you name it.
I do think that JJJ’s charter is the National Youth Broadcaster and it seems that the majority of people that are less impressed with JJJ these days are not youths anymore.
It is almost a generational thing. The music that is being released these days has changed over time as it has always done.
It is like every generation thinking that the latest generations music is crap.
Sure I agree that the Announcers Choice would be a great thing to bring back and definitely less rotation and repetition would be a good thing, but it is what it is.
It will continue to change as the industry, music and generations change.
“I do think that JJJ’s charter is the National Youth Broadcaster and it seems that the majority of people that are less impressed with JJJ these days are not youths anymore.”
Yet it’s all time top 100 was populated by music from the 1990’s back, indicating that it’s demographic is actually 35-40 year olds, or bogans. It must have been quite a shock to them.
I would disagree.
You’re quite at liberty to do so. What is your take on the damning results then?
All I mean is that the Hottest 1OO of All Time and the annual Hottest 100 are different from every day listening.
People who may not listen to it on a regular basis will come out of the wood work to have a vote.
These ‘old folk’ must have known it was on somehow. Maybe their children told them?
Ok dude.
I’m not here to argue the point or be validated.
I can’t be bothered.
I didn’t realise this was a competition, but I’m glad I won, dude. 😉
I don’t believe JJJ are as much the voice of hip youth as like to believe. In Sydney, the cool kids would flock to FBi before JJJ. Your average ‘groovy’ factory worker on the otherhand…
I thought the cool kids had abandoned radio all together, opting for online radio stations such as lastFM
I’m not talking about Old Folk or Hip Kids.
The aim of triple J as an entity is to target the youth demographic likely 14-25 year olds in triple J’s case. They frequently announce themselves as the youth broadcaster and old Roy & HG used to make a joke of it; “the Youf Network”.
The fact that the hottest 100 (which I was not chuffed with, personally) “was populated by music from the 1990’s back ” was that it’s a classic songs list.
didn’t “prisoner of society” make it in? I mean c’mon? No one over 25 would listen to that twice.
The Living End: doin’ it for the kids.
i think also, when it came to the all time list, only being able to choose ten songs resulted in people choosing ten big and famous songs, so you end up with people all choosing the same well known ones and ignoring more obscure things. that, and they must have ignored my votes.
You have to pay for LastFM, which would have reduced its patronage considerably. Also, as it plays old music (i.e. not latest releases, until they have been uploaded) it’s not really the cutting edge. Shame, I used to enjoy it.
yep,
America
Pink Floyde
Iron Butterfly
Frank Zappa
Fleetwood Mac
Bob Dylan
Cosby Stills
Moody Blues
Now there’s some real music.
I’ve been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
‘Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no pain
La, la …
Is recounting the chorus, albiet 40 years later, still bogan?
Dont even think it was bogan then
JH, whether it was bogan then or not is irrrelevant to my question… what I meant was, in line with this post; if I only sing the chorus does it may make me a bogan!
– the word may 🙂
AlyssaKT,
Sorry for being obtuse but what i ment in full was
“No and I don’t even think it was bogan then”
I read exactly that in your comment. No need for clarifications from you…
This TBL post was about bogans singing along to only the choruses of the popular songs. And I did just that then, although I couldn’t stop myself!
Perhaps once a song is old enough to not have been recently taken up by bogans after 6-12 months of being released, it becomes okay again?
Only if it makes Guitar Hero/Rock Band.
damnit alyssa, you’ve got it stuck in my head. there’s a glass coming your way…
you did well to remember MY name!
haha
*spliced*
yes
Like Me.
I know a lot of people in their early 20’s, and they go nuts for Triple J’s stuff. Like I did when I was 19-23.
Five years later I don’t listen to Triple J much (can’t stand all the hipster folk they play), but I do listen to the Hottest 100’s very closely.
Simon: Do not despair. The one and only Ms. Helen Razer has started podcasting! Relive the glory days of JJJ with 1/2 of the greatest breakfast duo ever heard on Australian radio getting her rant on.
http://www.badhostess.com
Hmmm – I remember when 3RRR was the only alternative for the angst-ridden be-fringed outsider and a guaranteed Aussie-rock free zone. jjj was always bogan/wannabes, and I have no idea who these bands you are talking about are…it scares me you all know the ways and bands and lyrics of the bogue so well 🙂
RRR is the only station I ever listened to when I lived in Melbourne. Now I live in Adelaide, I don’t even have a radio. I miss RRR. 😦
(I know I can listen on the internets, but it’s not the same.)
Who gives a fuck Dee?
Well, you gave enough of a fuck to read it and comment on it, so that’s 30 seconds of your life you’re never getting back, Happypants.
Yes indeed, Dee. Seems an unusual choice of comments for Happpants to come out of the closet to reply to
That’s classic.
Nice call Dee.
I’m with you buddy!!
Dee 3D’s not without some good tunes especially Pete and Tones on Thursday morning.
I will agree that 3D does play some good tunes, it is just that every time I listen to it in the car I can never hear what they are actually saying between songs.
It all sounds like someone is mumbling into a microphone that is placed on the other side of a glass wall.
If anything, I have found it to be a dangerous driving station.
Constantly having to bend down and turn up the volume, with all concentration put into deciphering what the f@ck they are actually saying.
It is hard work.
This is an interesting topic as I see a convergence of Bogan and Hipster behaviour.
I’ve lost count of the gigs I’ve been to at inner northern venues where hipsters ruin the experience of a gig by continually talking and going to the bar. This is archetypal bogan behaviour.
Fortunately it’s easier to tell a hipster to STFU as they’re usually weedy and looking scared.
FOF!
Weedy isn’t the half of it. Asymmetrical haircuts and the blokes wear friggin’ womens jeans. What the fuck is going on with that?
When, besides being a card carrying drag queen, did a bloke wearing womens clothes become acceptable? (And don’t say the footy show because they’re doing it to take the piss whereas these peanuts are serious.)
FOF!
Haha. That last sentence makes me think you’d be partial to glassing one of these c*nts?
On a more or less serious point, androgyny is hardly new. David Bowie and Prince come to mind, plus the entire new romantic movement.
Whether or not it’s acceptable is entirely subjective. I personally believe if someone can back their schtick up with substance then I don’t care if they walk around in arseless chaps.
arseless chaps
hohohoho
“The hipster drops his Leffe Blonde, and tries to look annoyed, bored and non-threatening at the same time”
This is hilarious and completely apt
Just wondering. Did a bogue walk off with one of the TBL boys corporate lawyer-cum-lingerie model girlfriend thus leading to TBL?
I imagine if that were true, he would consider himself lucky to be rid of someone with such appalling taste 🙂
Powderfinger have just broken up: http://www.liveguide.com.au/News_and_Reviews/6/25776/Powderfinger_s_Last_National_Tour_Ever
sad day for bogans?
Worse, farewell tour features Jet and The Vines supporting.
The Bogan crowds at this would be unbearable. Luckily they started sucking many years ago and have been off the radar ever since.
I remember seeing Powderfinger back in ’94, when they supported Pantera.
Now while you’re getting your head around that, the third band on the bill was an unknown trio of kids from Newie called Silverchair.
But back then Powderfinger was a really lame grunge band. Quite heavy in their way. A mate of mine had their first EP so he knew all the words. It was just a drone to me.
Supporting Pantera-WTF
Maybe for the rest of the week, then it will be “Maaayyytttte, faaarkin Powda-finga, no one cared about them caarrrnts anymore anyway.”
Thanks Valo,
I was just thinking last night “How does one write and spell in native bogan?”
Just i case I need to write on the “Your in Austraya! Speak fucken English!” Facebook page and have my comments understood.
Happy to be of service, I currently am based in Darwin due to my job and I hear boguelish regularly. If one of the native (and by native I don’t mean indigenous Australians, I mean native in the white Darwin local bogue sense of the term) bogues detects a non-bogue dialect, they will be only to happy to tell the other person to “fark orf back down sowf ya farkin lar-tay drinkin poof-tar! This woz a farkin orrrrrsum place til you farken carnts came up ere. ” Translation: ‘We Darwinians are aware that you are from another part of the continent, possibly Victoria or New South Wales, and as such we would be most grateful if you would depart from Darwin and enjoy a caffinated beverage elsewhere if you don’t appreciate being in Darwin. We, the Darwinians, also found Darwin a very enjoyable place to live until other people decided to settle here and bring with them some of their own culture and sensibilities.’
Maaaaatttte…. Aw faarrrcken pissed masewf when I read your post then. Funniest thing I’ve read in days.
Yeah, and don’t go to Northern England if you’re from the south, ya soft shite!!
The only part of northern england thats any good is Scotland
!!
Absolute best news I’ve heard all week.
Though I dread the emergence of Bernard’s first solo album.
Shirl my girl, he put one out a year or two ago to a rapturous reception.
Get f*cked.
Pays to be out of the loop, I guess.
Ya missed nuthin. Featured highly in the Hottest 100 if memory serves.
I have no idea how you managed to avoid it. There hasn’t been so much dross foisted on the Australian public via the saturated airwaves since Alex Lloyd’s last album.
My well tuned sense of selective absorption of information is the only explanation I can offer.
Alex Lloyd. Pffft. He was in a band before he turned crapola that was quite good. I can’t remember what they were called.
LOL. Pray madam, leave all stones unturned in your efforts to advise us.
Mother Hubbard.
You can all exhale now.
Back when he was Alexander Wasiliev…Mother Hubbard, I’ve got their album.
LOL. Sadly, you mean second solo album: “Tea and Sympathy”. You can still dread that though, should you wish to do so.
I have to say, I’d probably prefer to hear Bernard’s Neil Young-esque warblings than to endure another second of Pete fuckin’ Murray.
I want all of that faux-sensitive, half-assed Nick Drake wannabe mediocre crap wiped off the face of the earth.
Dude, Neil Young does not deserve to be brought into this.
He unleashed Heart of Gold on the world. For that, he must suffer.
LOL. *gasp* You realise he only unleashed the song? Douglas Adams unleashed the book that made us not-laugh.
*Shakes head and wanders off muttering about lack of respect in this here place*
LOL. What about the lack of respect I’m shown? I perform a wonderful philanthropic service here too. Oh well, as Wilde said, “no good deed goes unpunished”.
No Fi, Shirl dissing Neil, it’s just not on.
LOL. I was a tad shocked, but Shirley has enough credits to let one slip, don’t you agree?
No not Neil, there is a line that can not be crossed. *Glass*
LOL. I’ll have to stem the flow of bleeding with my bedazzler.
I am honestly surprised that seemingly sensible people are so mortified to hear I’m not a Neil Young fan.
There’s worse than fat old Neil. There’s a whole lot more who are better.
Stitch her up Fi.
*Finger in ears LA LA LA*
LOL. *glass*
And when I saw him last year he was looking quite buff for a 60+. So there.
Is Neil your dad, Simon? If so, I take it back.
Apology accepted.
Sorry Fi and I had to glass you.
Time to break out my much loved, faded and moth-eaten 1989 Neil Young and the Lost Dogs tour t-shirt, and polish the car with it. Such a shame they demolished Apollo Stadium too.
If I had to be glassed I’m glad it was you too.
Don’t ever do it again.
*two
and Fi,
dont forget
“I one tells the truth one is bound sooner or later to be found out”
LOL. I quite agree. Had it been in bogue vogue at the time of Powederfinger’s formation, I’d have demanded a glassing for taking the name.
I’ve never heard Pete Murray. The people I have heard talking about him was enough warning for me to never ever go there.
Did you ever have a radio on for more than 25 minutes between ’06-’07.
Then chances are you have heard Pete Murray. Although his breathy somnambulistic strummings were so soul-deadening that your brain may have automatically shut down after the first whisper-spoken line of the song.
Think Jack Johnson lamed down by the power of 10. And that is starting from an extremely lame base.
I hate all of that lot. James Blunt as well.
It’s such a pose. The whole “I’m deep and low-key and sensitive…” nonsense. And women buy their records by the truckload, then are shocked when they find out these guys are usually lazing around on yachts doing lines of coke out of starlet’s bum-cracks.
LOL. Really? I’ve never seen it.
JJ Cale’s “Naturally” watered down to 1000ppm. Worse, as with the John Butler Trio, it sporned dozens of imitators in every capital and regional centre.
Brings us back to Bon Iver!
STFU simon you’re out of your element!
Au Contraire Chubster.
lame ass film quote.
trying to reference a discussion from a few days ago.
just sad really.
sorry Si.
😡
Nah, I got it dude, just thought I would try a bit of french on you also as of a few days ago.
I wish John Butler would (a) get a haircut and (b) get another riff. That would double the number of riffs he’s used in his musical career thus far.
Simon – good point. I’ve often thought that the whole ‘chill’ music thingy that went on for a while there almost warrants a TBL post?
Frankenreiter, Johnson, Butler, Murray et al…
I loved Ben Harpers first two albums, and then he lightened up and crossed-over firmly into bogue territory, and suddenly all these same-along appeared.
None so insidious at Butler. The dreads (suuuuerely a very current bogue trend), setting up an allegedly indi label, and all his bullshit posturing on the environment.
He must have made some dollars…but something was missing?! Sure enough, the devout vego/vegan admitted he eats a bit of meat, his music style becomes MMM/Nova fodder and recently I read that he cut his dreads as he didn’t want to be pigeon-holed….
Welcome to a larger bank balance Johnny, you sly fox 😉
Lite Rock!
And by that I mean monkey balls.
big dangly pink hairy monkey balls
Absolutely toony. I remember having to endure a crowd of bogans screaming lyrics and clapping (out of time) to ‘Another Lonely Day’ at a Ben Harper concert in the mid-1990’s, with another punter yelling into my ear about his weekend to compete with…I knew it was the beginning of the end of my brief love afair with Ben Harper. Seems Ben soon got the hint and worked out where his money was coming from too.
I found it interesting 2-3 years ago, that John Butler’s unreleased single from his upcoming album charted in the top 10 of the JJJ Hottest 100! Appears that JB3 and JJJ have been in eachothers pockets for some time.
At least the unglassed cunce let the Pogues be.
Let ’em have their Dropkicks and Flogged Wives…
🙂
Well, it serves me right for listening to a band featuring an 11-string bass guitar (positioned unfeasibly high), a percussionist and a drum kit with one of those god aweful tiny splash cymbals. Urgh. Muzac at its best.
Hey!
you just b*ck the fuck up on Neil Young
Missy.
you dont like pulp fiction, you don’t like neil young, and if I remember rightly you were not that enthused about the sonic youths either…
Is this just the worlds most elaborate troll?
are you in with TBL luring us into some seinfeld-esque “finale” post.
or does agent provocateur just sit well in your raison d’etre?
No finale in sight. As mentioned on Facebook, a new xtent of xtreme is in sight, though. TBL
No conspiracy Chubby.
Me… I just speak the truth.
…
the burning bush
…
i feel so small
Thankyou O great ones.
I shall fetch a tablet and chisel and make it known to the nations.
FOF!
Disclaimer: I love triple J and and have done since they were 2JJ. Whilst they don’t always play everything you like at least they’re having a crack at supporting new music.
HOWEVER !!!! You could record the biggest pile of stinking shit and providing you chuck ‘fuck’ or ‘fucking’ in there triple J will play it.
Case in point the saccharine sweet rubbish that was Ameil’s ‘another stupid lovesong’ with ‘fucking’ written in when the replacement ‘stupid’ for commercial radio sounded so much better. Obviously their manager knew enough about triple J to get that song some airplay.
Guaranteed if ‘stupid’ was in there originally triple J wouldn’t have played it.
FOF!
Muz – maybe true…
but would she have even got on the airwaves at all if she wasn’t the
‘TOTALLY ADDICTED TO BASS’ chick??
O-woow-o-wowow….
I think it was 2JJ before I was even born…
Singing in french also guarantees high rotation on JJJ regardless of song quality – I’m gonna write a song with lyrics consisting solely of french swearing, they won’t be able to resist!
LOL. You’re all correct, but you’ve missed the most obvious way to get played on radio – include “DJ” in your lyrics and for added effect, make the whole song about the DJ. Comparing a DJ to God is just about as golden as you can get…
For the hipster, there’s “Faithless”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCvVatG16NE The hipster prefers this version because it’s sung by a starving African boy.
And for the bogue, “P!nk”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GutBg1aL7og
You people are the very best entertainment the internet has to offer at the moment, you know that?
LOL. Thank you. I do enjoy interacting with you all too – it’s entertaining, enlightening and above all, safe for me.
Yvw Fiona.
If you are not familiar with this ‘GOLDEN’ song and film clip… I suggest you watch it…
It covers MANY things that TBL has listed…
Area 7 – Nobody Likes a Bogan…
Maaaaaayyytttte…..That song goes down a treat.
Thing song epitomises the old school bogan nicely, which I think TBL tries to avoid. However, replace the ripped flano for an Ed Hardy t-shirt, the Barnsey in the car with Ministry of Sound, and put some buddist iconography in Bazza’s living room, and their is a hell of a lot of crossover between Accadacca bogan and Nouveau Bogue.
I have no idea who any of the bands mentioned in this thread are. Thank Christ.
LOL. I’ve never heard of the “Thank Christs”. Any good? 😉
the “Thank Christs” are f*cken weak!
😀
Are you a Phil Collins fan then?
No, I’m even worse than that. I am, *whispers* a Bob Dylan tragic.
LOL. Such a gifted voice…
Indeed. Coupled with such skill and proficiency in guitar and harmonica…
Such a gifted songwriter you mean…
Not so sure about the voice.
LOL. I see sarcasm is beyond you…
If only he could remember what the f@ck he was singing about.
hahahahaa
he probably doesn’t even know where he is!
*growls*
“who aaare these peepul?”
bob dylan hasn’t quite hit brian wilson territory, yet.
He now has a team of people who follow him around like in subterranean homesick blues with big cards.
Turn Left
Taxi
stick it to the man
Hungry
Nurse!
There is no such thing as a Bob Dylan ‘tragic’. He is the coolest man alive.
Say it loud and proud, James. I love Bob Dylan. I LOVE Bob Dylan!
Always happy to find fellow travellers, Shirley. We are Dylan fans, out and proud.
I agree, he’s the coolest man alive, and we his fans are the coolest, least tragic fans alive.
James and Shirley – you poor, poor loves.
The MUST be a support group for you. Surely.
My heart, thoughts and sympathies are with you both, and your families.
xxoo
Save your thoughts and sympathies for our families.
James and I… we’re alright, ma.
Hey! Phil Collins is a great… drummer.
Oh, I’m so sorry.
I’ve lived with this affliction for a long time, and I have accepted my lot in music.
So listening to JJJ is bogan?
Whilst i prefer to listen to my music in the car when i do decide to flick over to the radio which station should i be listening to TBL?
Or is TBL one of the many people bitching about how JJJ isn’t as good as it was back in the 90s when i was a young bloke? (Which, whilst i agree i preferred the music they played in the 90s, times change)
According to these coolsie tosser you must listen to only RRR or PBS and then only to the most pretentious shows whilst emulating the look of Bob Dylan circa 1968. I am sure there is a guide to being a hipster cockwart somewhere on this blog.
circa 1965.
I had assumed Mr vitriol was confused between pre-accident, Bringing it all Back Home Dylan and post-accident John Wesley Harding Dylan, as there is quite a difference, both in terms of looks and music. By 1968 it was all cowboy hats and ponchos, and I can not think of a time where I ever saw a “hipster cockwart” wearing a poncho.
LOL. You’ve never seen Muse’s “Knights of Cydonia”?
Oh, what a treat you’re in for… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI
😐 <– ironic grimace (it seems I have to point this out).
Wow. Just… Wow. Can I now say I am familiar with indie rock music?
Is Muse really indie rock?
they’re on a major label so not technically indie, but in terms of the genre ‘indie rock’ (which isn’t necessarily independent) they are. i’m happy to say i’m a fan of most of their stuff – most recent album should have been an ep, though, too much filler.
I’ve always thought Muse to be very talented, but vapid show ponies. I’ve never been able to get into their music.
they actually seemed like pretty nice guys when i saw them live a few years back. over-the-top stage style, but more in a fun way than an ‘i’m so much better and more important that you’ way, if you know what i mean.
LOL. I understand completely – and they’re only getting worse in this regard.
I’d classify Muse as stadium rock myself. They’re a little too bombastic and operatic for the Indie Rock tag (which should still give a nod to its DIY past) – try TV on the Radio, Broken Social Scene or maybe Wolf & Cub as contemporary examples.
*flicks fringe*
beautifully put.
Yes, yes, yes Goran.
What a great post by you.
You won me over with TV on the Radio.
I love that band!!!
I would also recommend listening to the Swedish band Love Is All.
LOL. At the time of this release they were very definitely Indie.
LOL. Yes. Yes you can.
ugh
muse
you are showing your age
Didn’t Muse change their name to Queen?
hehehehe
LOL. Really LOL. Very good.
One is not Muse’d
*Bows, retreats gracefully thankfull not to have been glassed or pendanted for once*
LOL. *puts bedazzler away*
Not picking me up on thankfull, it must be friday.
You get a reprieve for making a funny.
LOL. And the bedazzler was already tucked safely away.
I’m still contemplating picking you up on pendanted.
LOL. Sort of. But more here: http://www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com
i’m calling you on this “higher degree in the classics” shit. pwbosmbs.
LOL. Who cares.
thought so. Epic bullshit fail.
tossers.
(missed the s)
it’s tossersss
sssibilant.
is sibilant onomatopoeic?
i think it is
“which station should i be listening to TBL?”
After reading TBL for a few months I am left firmly of the belief that there is no other radio station in Straya. It seems all the despicable listen to it, plus all those to despise the despised.
Ooops, my typlexia strikes again: “to despise” should, of course, read “who despise”.
oh my god!
I just used sibilant in a post and it popped up right over you!
mussst be
sssynchronisssitay!
I think Classic FM is a safe bet, or even 3MP Bay City Radio – easy listening from the 70s, 80s and 90s…
JJJ = Bogan since the beginning.
Awww….. I was totally post #123 to be Hating Kevin Rudd.
They could include these previous article references:
‘how he lets those brown immigrants in, and how his mate Daz lost his job’- #47 Fuck Off We’re Full stickers, #92 News Limited
‘and how immigrants suck up our tax money’- #99 Today Tonight
‘gave them a $900 handout to increase ‘consumption”- #3 Interest Free, No Repayments for 18 months or #18 Petrol consumption as recreation.
‘complaining about how his border policy is soft, and how the bogan would like to bomb every one of those fkn boats’- #19 Killing Things
‘and hates K-Rudd because he speaks some munged up language and intends to make Australia chinese.’- #97 Anti-Intellectualism
‘and the bogan shudders even more, when the latest mosque is built, citing that it should not be there because there are no islams’- #95 Freedom of Speech.
‘He is primarily pissed off that Kevin Rudd had to balance out the value of the latest McMansion’- #84 McMansions, #85 Residential Property Investment
‘and plans to vote Abbott in, who says he will fix the health system, but in the end, decides to vote K Rudd anyway, just so he could get more handouts’- #25 Voting, #93 Spurious Allergies
Vote Kevin Rudd for #124!
Vote Quimby!
no longer an illiterate pot smoking philanderer!
Vampire weekend are already bogan
I just thought they sucked monkey balls personally.
…fetid dried pustulent Donkey balls, I heard.
The Horror, The Horror.
TWILIGHT star Robert Pattinson is to play US rock legend Kurt Cobain in a Hollywood biopic, while Courtney Love wants Scarlett Johansson to play her.
The Twilight star is said to have always thought of himself as a musician rather than an actor so securing a part playing the Nirvana lead singer, who shot himself in 1994, is ideal for him.
Scarlett is far too pretty to play Courtney
You don’t think Scarlett can play ugly, dirty, boob flashing skank?
Perfect for the role, so long as she doesn’t release an album of Hole covers.
They can call the album Not without my Underpants.
wouldn’t that be an album of britney covers?
I’m not sure she knows what they are. I was going for a word play on Hole covers but probably missed the mark.
She’s quite talented, so she probably can.
I believe Tom Waits is having a rotisserie build into his coffin, so he can turn in his grave for eternity over Scarlett’s horrific renditions of his tunes.
Hahaha. I meant a talented actor.
She’s pretty, and a talented actor, but she should have left Tom Waits the f*ck alone.
Tom, like Neil is untouchable.
no waaaay???
wtf?
…
pffft.
a STALE poorly seasoned pan fried turd with a marzipan jus would be too pretty to play courtney love.
Whereas a fresh, well seasoned pan fried turd…
ugh.
When glassing c*nts goes too far-
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2010/04/09/206385_gold-coast-news.html
“A MAN died and two others are seriously injured after they fell through a window at a Surfers Paradise nightclub early today.
“The men had been involved in a minor altercation, before all three apparently lost their balance and plunged through the window”
Bogans at indie gigs are my worst nightmare.
They are bored between songs and often talk among their mates about how they don’t know the lesser known/lesser or never played on Fox FM songs.
Thanks for this blog!
I heard you have a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody. Every great song by the Beach Boys. All the underground hits. All the Modern Lovers tracks. I heard you have a vinyl of every Niagra record on German import. I heard that you have a white label of every seminal Detroit techno hit – 1985, ’86, ’87. I heard that you have a CD compilation of every good ’60s cut and another box set from the ’70s.
I hear you’re buying a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and are throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real. You want to make a Yaz record.
I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars.
I hear everybody that you know is more relevant than everybody that I know.
But have you seen my records? This Heat, Pere Ubu, Outsiders, Nation of Ulysses, Mars, The Trojans, The Black Dice, Todd Terry, the Germs, Section 25, Althea and Donna, Sexual Harrassment, a-ha, Pere Ubu, Dorothy Ashby, PIL, the Fania All-Stars, the Bar-Kays, the Human League, the Normal, Lou Reed, Scott Walker, Monks, Niagra,
Joy Division, Lower 48, the Association, Sun Ra,
Scientists, Royal Trux, 10cc,
Eric B. and Rakim, Index, Basic Channel, Soulsonic Force (“just hit me”!), Juan Atkins, David Axelrod, Electric Prunes, Gil! Scott! Heron!, the Slits, Faust, Mantronix, Pharaoh Sanders and the Fire Engines, the Swans, the Soft Cell, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics.
Losing My Edge
LCD soundsystem
gold.
Nick Cave is probably the only high profile gig that I have been to that the “Indie Rock Chorus” thing is absent. Maybe coz he’s had so many songs over 25 years, and his songs aren’t really commercial , and his fans are usually die-hards who love all his stuff.
“And the Mercy Seat Is a Waitin’…..”
“oh Ho DEANNAargh”
“Do ya Love Me?”
and that kylie one I cant remember.
have you been to a gig where he’s done the ship song?
fucking hate sing a longs.
The duet with Kylie? “Where the Wild Roses Grow.” At the time, someone at work liked the video, because it meant she got to see The Singing Budgie done in with a rock.
niiice.
almost pr0n.
actually I want to fully retract that.
sorry.
I do find the ‘doing in’ funny,
but definately not arousing.
sorry.
Love Nick Cave.
Hate the Sing-a-long, whoever it is.
I paid eighty odd bucks to hear these guys, not the sad f@cks around me. Waving their bloody mobiles or whatever.
why not just rent a dvd of said luminary and put on some headphones, take your valiums or your pheylamines with the clever methyl group or whatever you’re into and bellow at each other BACK AT YOUR PLACE!!!
*phenylamines
yeah right!
stick your “atmosphere” up your arse!
HILARIOUS.
Mind you, I am sick and on the the “psuedo-Pseudoephedrine” – Phenylephrine hydrochloride. I am also waving my mobile all over the shop, chanting.
Add some merlot to the mix. And some olive leaf extract (non-alcoholic but full of miracles)
Oh how I laughed when I read your post.
Amazing coincidence.
Just before logging on now, my 16yo who listens to the broadest range of stuff imaginable – from a bit of Swedish techno and hardcore Euro death metal through to Otis Taylor; very early Stones to The Lonely Island; Dropkick Murphys to Snoop – made a playlist for me.
First up: Nick’s Dig, Lazarus, Dig! followed by the Ship Song. Turns out he’s quite the Nick afficionado – he’s tracked down some weird and wonderful stuff which I’ve never heard.
Next up on the playlist – weirdly, but welcome – Brian Cadd’s Ginger Man. Then Radiohead’s Freak, followed by Jarvis Cocker’s hilarious I Will Kill Again (the ultimate suburban freak-out).
Then Sir Mixalot, Stevie Nicks & Tom Petty, some JBT, Tone Loc, a Eric Clapton instrumental, We Are Scientists, Otis Taylor’s incredible Nasty Letter and, just to pi$$ me off, Patrick Swayze.
A schizophrenic combo, but I’m rather chuffed that my sole offspring marches to his own beat re musical musical tastes when most of his mates seem to be rusted on to the Top 40. Lessens the risk of him doing the bogan-type lemming thing later in life. Hopefully. Either that, or he’s just mad as a top…..
*aN Eric Clapton*
Sorry.
Was too busy being chuffed to observe grammatical niceties.
Hey Ladies, that really was my post, but somehow it came up under Chubby’s name.
How?
I don’t know.
So therefore all of your comments AND compliments should be directed at me.
After your little pre-Easter serial killer tangent, I’m afeared of you, BOGUE partner. Therefore, compliments galore. And a kidney if you really want one.
That’s beautiful about your son.
there is hope yet.
😀
kids are so much more eclectic now.
I should know I am one!
jarvis cocker.
very succinct.
don’t know why I didn’t think of this earler.
❤
Love Jarvis.
Sometimes I change c@nt to gunt.
It is a lot of fun!
😀
wrong clip.
but it gets the point across.
speaking of songs the Bogues ate…
throw your arms around me.
I used to love loving that song,
and then….
and hunters..
talk about a band going down the gurgler!
mark seymore always was a pretentious little twat.
to paraphrase mr. fanning.
QUICK EVERYONE MAKE A FUSS OVER WHO’S INDIE AND WHO’S NOT
There’s no need to panic. You can decide with poise. TBL
So after a whole day of reading these comments, I re-read the blog and *Ding* it hits me.
I don’t know if it was too subtle the first time (or I am a bogan and need this sh*t rammed into my psyche) but I just had a moment.
One of those, “Oh yeah, I hate this shit”.
I remember driving around with my dear friend Holly at all hours of the night yelling out ‘White pants’ to the docile bogans that saturated the city streets many years ago.
It always amused us when they would turn to us with a perplexed look on their face.
What in turn did not amuse me, was the same influx of white pant wearing freaks at the Big Day Out.
I did not see the same extent of bogue at say a Falls festival. I believe this may have to do with having to travel and then camp for three to four days.
Not a bogue luxury.
What I have recalled this evening though is the pure frustration and contempt that I felt toward these ‘soul sucking jerks’ every time I turned around looking for a genuine moment with my buddies, but finding some lame arse, good for nothing, pyro inspiring Dickhead.
For that, I f&cking hate bogans!
I was in a car one time, driving through the area where The Big Day Out is located on the Gold Coast when I saw someone with a crazy flat top. I yold me friends that he needed a haircut. Loudly. Perhaps loud enough for him to hear. As we drove away I looked in the rear view and I could never jave expected what I saw. A to-the-waste-mullet. I hope he heard my haircur call.
p.s. I have cut 4 now, 2 mullets, 2 rat’s tails. NEXT!
oh dear! me = my
jave = have
haurcur = haircut
It’s cool AlyssaKT.
I understood every word.
😀
Miss AKT, have you had a bit of a night out??!!
Love the mullet yarn – that’s waaaayyyyyyy too much party-out-the-back. Makes one want to do a drive-by scything.
Too much anger. Also…. why are white pants bogan? Seems a bit circus to me.
BOGUEcircus
Hey I’m onto something here.
We could make white arseless chaps.
For arse clowns.
I’m not quite sure why, but the concept of “@r$e clowns” made me titter. A lot.
Word G.
To you Edna.
Thanks Simon.
Just trying to keep it real!
I’m going to run this up the flagpole and see who salutes – or glasses me.
The heinous truth is…..I don’t like a lot of indie stuff. For the same reason I don’t like most of the mainstream stuff – ie, I think it’s inept. Musicianship is often laughable, lyrics either inane or self-consciously deep and the overall package just too f&$king earnest to live.
Bleating about your obscure musical influences, adopting a vague or sulky expression and releasing amateur-hour shite on home-burned CDs may equal “cool”, but they’re no substitute for actually becoming mildly proficient at one’s musical instrument of choice.
Two fumbling chords and a moody band photo do not a good song maketh.
***runs into the cellar, slams reinforced door behind, adopts foetal position in the corner***
Musical proficiency isn’t really the key either. It’s integrity and honesty. You have to mean it. Soul, if you will.
Completely agree re heart and soul. Passion. Belief.
But I do think there are some artists/bands who are coasting by on feigned soul, and using it to insulate against the cold, hard reality that they’re neither original, nor good.
I’ve also seen acts which truly lived and breathed what they did, who wrote and performed with heartfelt integrity…but again, just weren’t very good.
Marketing has a lot to answer for. I know – I spent years working in the field.
When it comes to live performance you’ve got to have your shit together. All the soul in the world’s not going to help you if you can’t keep time.
This is why Gomez have always impressed me. For a large, young band, their on stage performance is outstanding.
True Tombarina,
There are plenty in the category of feigned cool eg The Strokes who market better than they play. Passionate music does not need defining it just is.
Because I’m exceedingly old, I very rarely get to live gigs these days. The Twilight Eaves Home For Seniors doesn’t run its outings bus after 5.30pm, which is lights-out time.
Therefore, I rely on A) my sole offspring, and B) the net to find out what’s new and interesting.
I agree that one knows true passion on the rare occasions it is encountered. (very clumsy sentence – sorry)
I also maintain that passion does not necessarily equal “good” or “worth the cover charge”, but I’m going to defer to you guys (S & S) on the subject, as my live gig world is small and sparse these days!
aw c’mon.
it’s just a visceral thing.
you can’t help it.
and it doesn’t have to be “all that”
some supersweet simple pop songs (tegan & sara – hell and the friendly fires – skeleton boy) are just irresistable if obvious. it feels closer to the bone, and you just can’t miss that these kids are rocking for the sheer joy of it.
I just don’t feel that in the mainstream stuff.
Very true. Such as Custard. Pure melodic fun.
What pisses me off about mainstream pop music is if you strip away all the over-production, hideous vocals, the lyrics and whorish film clips, the core of the song is usually brilliant. Take Britney’s ‘Hit Me Baby One More Time’. The chord progression of that song is fantastic.
You are ALL bogans to me
Sh*t!
Is it that obvious?
Edna,
Yep, the pure irony of it is the greatest thing about these TBL bogan shows. That and the large number of undergradspretending to be grown ups AND the excessive number of people who seem to spend large amounts of their employers time bloging.
I become so amused thinkg about it all sometimes I even smile.
cheer up james,i once posted from my i-pod and it cost me $20!
And you probably think we give a f*ck don’t ya Steve.
SimON! Be nice. Steve clearly thinks we care about his utterly uninteresting, irrelevant opinion.
Hate to digress on what has been a wonderful conversation so far….
what’s the prevailing opinion on Australia’s recent obsession with “hardcore”? (really just metalcore/deathcore)
I myslef am a fan of older hardcore (ie: Converge, Cave In, CIrcle Takes The Square and Refused) but the rising popularity of A Day To Remember, Devil Wears Prada, and of course PARKWAY DRIVE has made me a little worried.
Is hardcore going down the beaten bogan path “indie” went down, or maybe even already been taken over???
hmmm.
I remember Hank Rollins having something to say on this. maybe it was more along the lines of the “limp bizkit” type thing. but basically that it can be pretty formulaic. Lots of cats are drawn in to the hard image but I dont think the types we lampoon have the passion to truly take to the scene with any heart… unless everyone else is already doing it.
I dont think it sounds sick enuff thru a 20″ sub.
Can you imagine a hardcore straight edge vegan bogan?
an oxymoron.
Can you imagine a hardcore straight edge vegan bogan?
an oxymoron.
prime example: Michael Crafter, singer of I Killed The Prom Queen, appeared on Big Brother in the last season, has 5000 Facebook friends and the mentality of a 12 year old kid with ADHD
How the hell did you do italics?
and thank you.
I stand corrected
no way?
all this bloody time….
OK, smarty. Spill…..
html.
d’oh!
can we ask to have this thread taken out so we don’t look like complete mooks?
Yes can we please.
My comment is awaiting moderation so will pop up later.
How embarrassment!
☺
This makes me ⅓ cooler.
chubby,
an “OX”ymoran ?
Still I ‘spose “soymoron” is not in the dictionary?
oh james.
a vegeMoron?
Chubby,
“Vegiemoron” is perfect.
Afterall lack of all those esential amino acids that the body cannot synthesise itself causes ,,,,? Woops, must be careful, just found myself smiling a little !!
Not wanting to ad to the tangled mass above I have made a new post.
The Herd was mentioned previously and it brought to mind a funny incident involving the song “The King Is Dead”. It should be noted at this point that I am an avid Aussie Hip hop and general hip hop fan (and as a guilty pleasure some gangsta rap on occasion). Also, I can’t stand KRudd.
While at uni a friend of mine (a pretty smart lass who i new liked John Howard and was upset with the KRudd government) said to me: “Have you heard that new Herd song?”
Me: “The King Is Dead?”
“That’s the one”
“Yep, it’s not a bad song. I just don’t like it that much.
“Why not?”
“Because it’s bagging the shit out of Little Johhny”
“What?”
Me thinking *what the hell?* “It”s about John Howard losing the election.”
Her: “No it’s not.”
“It bloody well is. It’s called “The King is Dead” and has lines like “Did you read the paper the day after and hear the laughter? I’ll read it to you, it starts with M McKew and ends with you” and “you got your arse played in Mandarin”. How could you not get that?”
“I suppose I didn’t really listen to it.”
I was convinced that the lines that referred to him as a “crook” and turning ‘straya into a nation “haters” (hey look a pseudo-rhyme, maybe i should be a rapper too!) weren’t exactly lavishing praise on the man and that the other about “[dancing] with sheer relief” was expressing relief at J-Ho losing the election and therefore anti-jonny*, but maybe it’s just me…
*note that I have absolutely no probem whatsoever with any anti-howard sentment, in fact I welcome it, I just feel like being an annoying smart-arse bitch. have a nice day 🙂
…anyway.
Nice of TBL to leave us an music blog to play in o’er the wknd…
do any tragics want to speculate on “Hot Fuss Monday”?
what was it?
the most eXtrem post ever…
more extreme than pandora’s bracelet…
Ooo…Kay.
So what will you wear?
do you think…
I usually do this in my undies, but…
y’know?
it feels a bit special…
special
don’t forget the hijacking of Shipping Up To Boston by the AFL for their promo ads. and for some reason all the players on the ad seem to be a bit darker than average. not very irish. and the bit where the 2 x players afe sliding on an ice hockey rink, well there wasn’t a hockey player in sight. because afl < ice hockey.
when did the top banner change?
is that taken at gallipoli?
Just spotted the top banner myself, Chub.
Could be Gallipoli.
Or could be Big Day Out/Australia Day/Anzac Day/Queen’s Birthday/Wimbledon/Boxing Day test/Bathurst 1000/Ipswich drags/Dazz’s birthday – in short, anything which inspires the bogue a reason to draw upon its deep well of national pride and patriotic sentiment, and move it to eloquent and dignified expression of same. Preferably with a bottle of Jim Beam under the belt.
roger.
probably just the local jacaranda festival.
Wooo!
f*cken JACARANDA!
“These trendsetting bogans are on a mission, a mission to appear cool to bogans everywhere by unveiling to those bogans new music that has been publicly available for at least six months.”
^Shit is poorly written^
How about it gingha?
Why don’t you start your own blog?
Shit ‘rangas like!
For goodness sake. I think everyone is getting a bit worked up over who is indie and who isn’t. Who cares if bogans listen to the same indie music you do, it doesn’t then suddenly transform the music into bogan music. It’s the same music. It did piss me off though when they started playing gyroscope for the AFL promos. All of a sudden all the bogans had “discovered” them. Didn’t make me dislike them though.
Thankfully the bogan hasn’t discovered Moby, Infected Mushroom, or for that matter Paul Oakenfold.
KTEL pretty much introduced them to the joys of classical music in three minute slices … personally I would have aimed at two minutes and had even more of an impact … attention spans etc.
I think you’ve confused JJJ with commercial radio like Nova and Fox FM. It may not be the station it used to be but to say they are limited to three songs is a bit of an exaggeration.
Hear the new LCD album today. I thought TBL may have been facaetious mentioning it in the blog… but no. The lead single will hook them (Drunk Girls) and the rest of the album is solid enough to keep them in.
*sigh*
and someone tell me why the hell triple J have missed the Archie Bronson Outfit?
excellent stuff. On their third album and I’d never heard of them.