#11 – Ruining Music Festivals

28 10 2009

A new type of festival goer has emerged in recent years. First observed around the turn of the millennium at the Melbourne Big Day Out, it goes just to say it did, and because everyone else is. It pays hundreds of dollars to attend festivals, often paying top dollar to scalpers at the last minute after its lack of organisational and budgeting skill prevents it from acquiring tickets in advance.

Big Day OutIt attends festivals only to spend the vast majority of its time hovering around the beer garden or the line for beer in a valiant attempt to avoid actually seeing any bands. This is because it does not in fact know any of the bands playing, not having heard them on commercial radio or seen them on Video Hits (There is one rare exception – when there is a DJ tent, or famous electronic artist performing. In this instance, it instantly congregates with its kind, pops candy, and proceeds to beat the crap out of its peers in sheer happiness at the glowing solidarity provided by Girl Talk’s ‘Shut the Club Down’).

As the day goes on, and it consumes far more alcohol and drugs than it could possibly handle, it begins to get agitated. It has strayed too far from its natural habitat. There are too many emos around. Everyone is wearing black, and Travisty t-shirts are few and far between. It gravitates toward others like it, easily identifiable by a lack of shirt (or aforementioned Travisty apparel), intense sunburn, an Australian flag draped over their shoulders, a Southern Cross tattoo, or all of the above.

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Image credit: Riot ACT

Once a group of sufficient size is formed, confidence begins to swell among the herd. It, with the security of its new posse, can now begin hurling insults toward emos, who are identifiable to the herd by their lack of Travisty attire. The herd, the alcohol and the drugs have given it super powers, and it uses those powers for the most worthy cause it can think of: to intimidate foreign-looking people into kissing the Australian flag.

The proliferation of the festival-going, shirtless, sun burnt, Australian flag draped, Southern Cross tattoo bearing bogan has ruined many a festival. In fact, the bogan has the unique ability to ruin any public event, including the Melbourne Cup, one-day cricket, Cronulla Beach (not actually an event), New Years Eve, and Christmas.


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28 10 2009
I point and laugh at you

Ah yes, this is where my disdain for the Nouveau Bogan started.

Another amusing element to these events is the drunken discussion among the “Travisty wearing later to become shirtless bogans” of that awesome NEW band Kings of Leon, or that wicked NEW dance act Daft Punk.

Anyway, better get back to listening to my new itunes download by a brand new act called Snow Patrol, you probably haven’t heard of them yet, only just new on the scene.

1 11 2009
Sophie

New dance act Daft punk…hahahahaha!!! that’s so true! It’s only when bloody Fox fm or something plays a track that it becomes KNOWN. Useless bloody morons. As for those that wrap themselves in the flag….oh god. Anyone who feels patriotic doing that is simply lacking in anything passing as intelligence. The Cronulla riots mob is a case in point.

4 11 2009
Duncan

Too right, Sophie – my thoughts exactly.

15 02 2010
Jake

Reminds me of a Xmas dinner i was at, where a Bogue was yapping to a girl at the table about Kings Of Leon and what a MASSIVE FAN he was and how he can’t wait to see them at BDO. The girl, knowing I had an big music collection, looked at me and asked if I had their album. I replied that I don’t have the new one as i have plenty of good U2 albums to listen to, but I do have Aha Shake and Youth And Young Manhood, to which the Bogue looked utterly confused, and asked what they were?! I said their earlier albums, and get this….he didn’t believe me!! He said I was wrong!!

29 10 2009
Sheila (@stinginthetail)

lol – i detest people who wrap themselves in the flag – any flag. I would quite like to just shoot them, but someone said that’s not allowed *sighs*

1 11 2009
Jai'syn

I’m in total agreement. This breed seems to have emerged following the Bali Bombings in an attempt to appear patriotic while extruding a very apparent racist anti-Asian/anti-non-white policy. Often heard using the bogan national anthem – “Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi”

1 11 2009
Simon

Yeah! Screw those wankers! They should learn to accept people!

Lets shoot them!

……….

1 11 2009
Sydney

How is being a proud Australian akin to being a bogan or a racist?
How do people who shout “Aussie Aussie Aussie” exhibit anti Asian sentiment? Perhaps the racism you perceive is a result of being a racist yourself.

26 01 2011
Andy

“I donn’t see how it’s racist, in fact, you must have to be racist to see it!” Fucking well played.

5 11 2009
Samual

“Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel” – Samual Jackson

1 11 2009
Sophie

You don’t have to shoot them. Just drop them all in Dandenong/Lakemba/Sunshine and let them enjoy what it means to REALLY be an Aussie- one that actually lives the concepts of mateship, egalitarianism and fair go daily!

1 11 2009
C.c

They are only ruining crappy festivals like the BDO and other overhyped second rate Australian festivals

1 11 2009
StuManChu

Unfortunately this statement is incorrect. MGMT drew a rather awful selection of bogans to a music festival that has otherwise been quite a safehaven…

3 11 2009
Matt

Actually they are ruining all festivals! I have been going to musical festivals for 15 years now and it astonishes me how many more fights there are now compared to the good old days. I blame this mostly on the bogan footy heads. I will never forget at pyramid rock festival when to my disgust i could here `warney…warney´ chants coming from the beer tent. I have not returned to that particular festival again. Keep bogans out of festivals!

1 11 2009
tco

hahaa oh too true – Sydney BDO has turned into one big Beach Bogan affair. They wouldn’t know the music if it bit them in the arse, they go no matter who is playing, and don’t they look gooooood… Fortunately this years BDO is so bad it is the first one I won’t go to :)

1 11 2009
Brad

Publishing a website using a sub-domain because you are too tight to spring the $9.95 for a domain should also be added to the list of things bogans like.

1 11 2009
rustybeamish

Thanks for visiting our shitty sub-domain, Brad.

1 11 2009
doug

bogans wouldn’t like girl talk, they would invariably be let down when they realised that the songs didn’t finish properly. much more likely to have a stroke when they realise the presets are on.

1 11 2009
ghu

no way. bogans never let songs play out in full

1 11 2009
berihebi

Those checkered shoes in the first photo are a bogan favourite too I’ve noticed. Also worn by private school boys who have fluffy metro haircuts and above the knee slim fitting shorts. Even private school boys can be bogans.

1 11 2009
bec

Private schooling is the fucking hallmark aspiration of Howard’s Battlers, though. Why would you send your kid to some place where they’ll indoctrinate your kids with leftist-socialist crap like “don’t bully people of other races” when you can send your kid to a school with good *values*?

Hint: a bogan is someone who sends their kid to a school that has the words “Christian College” in the name.

1 11 2009
berihebi

True Bec. Private school used to mean the really elite Scotch College type place but these days every bogan is looking to send their kid to one even if they are actually quite crap. They seem to think that a uniform is the sign of a good school even if the local Mount Saint Buggery Christian College runs a very poor second to the good old public place down the road.

1 11 2009
Morris

Making stupid and uninformed statements about Private Schools when they clearly know nothing about them (must be because they went to a public school all their life) should be added to the list of ‘Things Bogans Like’…

1 11 2009
bec

Selective reading to make yourself feel better that you attended a school that cost $6000 a year for results only slightly below the average at the local state school might not be a sign of boganism, but it certainly is a poor coping mechanism.

I was privately educated too. But don’t worry about me, I actually had a real education – my school taught us about evolution and didn’t ban gay teachers, after all.

27 01 2010
Peggsy

nice one Bec :)

1 11 2009
berihebi

Moving around a bit during high school I actually did the full picture of schools – bad public, good public, crappy private and elite private. Good public had the best combination of enjoyable/quality. Crappy private was neither here nor there for me but it and bad public had the biggest population of bogans (most dumb and lovable but the occasional aggro type). The elite private place was a good school academically but full of rugby wankers – they’d be bogans if they were poorer.

2 11 2009
B

having also been private school educated, i’d like to point out that there are several grades of ‘private’ GPS, CAS, and religious schools.

besides why shouldn’t private schooling be a good thing? it’s not necessarily the marks that you gain, it’s th people you meet during your time there, people who are connected.

i’ll be working my ass off to ensure my kids won’t have to go to a public school unless it was either Sydney Boys or James Ruse.

2 11 2009
bec

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with private schooling per se. No one educational sector or kind of schooling is going to suit *every* student. I certainly have no beef with Catholic education, which is relatively moderate. What I do have a problem with is the number of shitty, third-rate “Christian Colleges” that sprung up during the Howard government years that seem to cater to those who heard the dog-whistle about *values*. They’re not even Christian values – there’s nothing remotely, truly Christian about some wanker sitting back and complaining about “queue jumping illegals”. (I am sure Jesus is going to be totes impressed when he comes back to earth to find that his followers are tools who drive Taragos who natter about how *they* shouldn’t be expected to support dole-bludgers.)

These schools seemed to spring up merely as outer-suburban enclaves to prevent mediocre white people from mixing with people of other races or faith groups. They’re academically under-achieving because the schools immediately discriminate against thousands of extremely talented and competent teachers on the basis of that bogus exemption clause to the anti-discrimination act, and have to rely on the dregs who only got the job because they can sing the lyrics to “Onward Christian Soldiers”. They attract people who only *want* to say that they gave their child a private school education for the prestige purposes, rather than because of the quality of schooling or legitimate reasons to change schools.

2 11 2009
berihebi

Yeah well said Bec. I’ve got no real stong opinion in the public v private debate generally either but agree that the Bogan loves the christian college type place. I love how snooty they get when they mention that their kids go there too. I also think that most suburban catholic schools have become a bit ‘christian college’ as well.

4 11 2009
B

ah i see that i’ve misunderstood your ‘private’ schools category.. and referring to those outter religious school of scant history and even scantier talent in regards to teaching and candidature.

my apologies. in line with your definition i agree whole-heartedly

16 05 2012
Jake

You mean Vans? I take it you never skateboarded?
Comfiest pair of skate shoes I have ever owned.
Or is skatboarding a bogan thing as well?
This page is idiotic.

– I (and my mates) got southern cross tattoos because we served in the military in afghanistan 2-3 times each.
– I drive a holden ute because it is better mechanically than the Toyota and VW I owned previously.
– American made Fender Stratocasters are generally known as a high-end instrument in the realm of PRS, Gibson and ESP but you hipsters would probably know that but don’t all indie bands utilise Fender?

This website is for Indie kids and Hipsters who think it’s alright to call people who are patrotic racist because that’s what they think is right.

Get a hint and get outside of university for half a day.

(I have a degree by the way thanks.)

1 11 2009
KH

I was on a bus going past the Sydney Parklife festival a few weeks ago and every second chick had the denim shorts & gumboots look going on, obviously trying to appropriate the Kate Moss a la Glastonbury style (that she did years ago and did so much better). This look has become a festival uniform for aussie bogan chicks nationwide even if there’s no chance of rain or muddy fields.

And what up with frickin fluero in diarrheal proportions at festivals??

1 11 2009
Trent from Punchy

I like this article, I do.

Only, it’s so Australian in it’s vitriolic hatred of anything nationalistic. As soon as someone gets a “southo cross” tatt or wears a flag they are a bogan. And I’ve done neither.

I guess, like anything, it isn’t all or nothing, and real bogans ARE quite amusing.

I would also like to point out Jagerbombs, the hallmark of a bogan!

I am much more alarmed by the recent outbreak of Lads!

1 11 2009
Matt

I like having hordes of bogans at the Melbourne Cup. Can you imaging how boring it would be without them?

No teenage girls swaying on their stilettos with unfocused eyes, no paramedics pumping the stomachs of jail bait lying passed out on the grass. Just some horses running around a track.

1 11 2009
Rod

You could add to this “ruining Anzac Day services” Why have the bogans got all patriotic about Anzac Day the last few years? I work with several young bogues whose dream is to go to Anzac Cove and get pissed for the diggers. Champions. And they have no sense of humour about it. I was trying to explain to one the other day that it is un-Australian to sing or even know the words to the national anthem but he didn’t get it. Thought standing to attention with your hand on your heart was a good thing too. Humourless nationalists are scary people.

4 11 2009
Duncan

I like your thoughts there, Rod.

1 12 2009
Right and proud

Standing with your hand on your heart is actually an American trait.

1 11 2009
Simon

Irony – a group of self confessed snobs with a superiority complex peddling anger and intolerance towards a group of self confessed bogans with a superiority complex using the justification that bogans peddle anger and intolerance towards snobs.

Hmmm..nice work guys.

1 11 2009
Jenki

Wow, seems like EVERYONE is a bogan!
Looks like we have it all covered.

1 11 2009
holder

hmmmm…

I have a Southern Cross Tattoo and a university degree.

The maker of this site is a hate filled, sad little person who needs a lie down, and probably a girlfriend.

1 11 2009
ghu

anyone can get a university degree these days

1 11 2009
Rod

Even the bogans. Is that a degree in burnouts? From the Peter Brock wing of the Bathurst University?

1 11 2009
Ironhalo

Rod: champagne comedy!

5 11 2009
Troit

F’g funny stuff

1 11 2009
reality

So youve virtually covered 95% of the population, let me guess buying a Mac because it looks good rather than a pc makes you a bogan as well…

1 11 2009
Rod

Yes!

1 11 2009
reality

Rofl

5 11 2009
Troit

Had to look up ROFL, but agree!

1 11 2009
FZ

I first noticed this at the 1999 Sydney BDO while watching Manic Street Preachers (ironically a band that ‘UK bogans’ were obssessed with for a couple years until they got bored & moved onto Robbie Williams). They started playing a joke version of ‘Sweet Home Alabama’ & the dead crowd suddenly when ballistic with one guy near me shouting “F yeah, it’s about time these bastards played something we know”

1 11 2009
greg

its almost like every second person is a bogan…which i disagree with
bogans are still the ignorant people who really only care about themselves
what worries me though now is the same type of bogan going to music festivals who all of a sudden like electronic music?
way to big a contrast for me

2 11 2009
Tom

I have a theory that the set of people with Southern Cross tattoos and the set of people who can identify the Southern Cross in the night sky are mutually exclusive.

I have yet to find a counter-example.

2 11 2009
bec

I see your hypothesis, and raise you one theory that people who loudly decry immigrants with poor English skills have a poorer grasp of written English than ESL speakers.

2 11 2009
B

well speaking might be around the same.. but get the esl to write an essay and the distinction becomes very clear i think.

but then the esl’s use a dictionary and know vaguely when they make a grammatical error.

bogans probably think ‘grammatical error’ means that you’re insulting them by saying that their grandparents made a mistake by giving birth to their parents… (hope that actually made sense:P)

2 11 2009
MC Eating Disorder

“bogans wouldn’t like girl talk, they would invariably be let down when they realised that the songs didn’t finish properly. much more likely to have a stroke when they realise the presets are on.

to the contrary the ADD like nature of the bogan makes Girltalks mashups the perfect format for them to listen to music in

2 11 2009
Shaun

LOL what a pack of overly Intelligent snobbery. Id rather be a bogan then someone that cringes at people who are happy being themselves showing some national pride, having a good time in the process. If you want your own soft cock music festivals start by not adding bands like Rage against the machine, Metellica and so on. No-one has exclusive rights to who gets to go to music festivals or what they where.

The cricket has alway been home base for bogans its you wankers that have made it boring.

Cronulla Beach.. yer nice try. Most people who live are white and and bogan. Who are you to stick your nose in their lives. If you want to hug a tree go live in Bankstown if you mange to live after 2 weeks id be surprised.

As for Xmas and New years. ya now your just bitching

It appears that this anti Australian site is made up of over educated apologists who would never enlist in the army or do something that requires them to try pride in the flag and country. Please move to London and set up camp with the other reject expats no one here cares about.

PS: I’m a mid level manager in a office who takes plenty of enjoyment seeing snotty noised uni students get all out of joint when they have to report to me. I worked my way up after leaving school when I was 15 and have no time self important idots who vote labor or greens. Liberal is the new bogan party

Bottom line if you don’t like bogans just leave the country WE ARE MORE.

2 11 2009
bec

I have no time self important idots either. Are those domestically produced or does one have to pay ridiculous import prices?

2 11 2009
Armando

We produce them in hordes.

Didn’t you know, another trait of the bogan, albeit the more educated ones, is to try and push their rubbish opinion as fact and use it as some kind of important monologue when discussing issues.

You just have to look at bogan journals like the HUN where they employ opinion writers to dabble in fiction and then pass it off as fact.

Then these views are passed on to fellow bogans who then try and use what they learnt in the HUN that day as fact to make said bogan feel like he has a grasp on todays issues.

cringe.

22 10 2010
Marty

No time for anyone self important? I don’t know how you have time for yourself then. I don’t agree with Shaun, but you are not helping the side you are trying to debate for.

Or did a different bec write half of the comments above?

2 11 2009
Juergen

Oh boy.
No need to mention that you dropped out of school when you were 15. Mid-Level manager, wow, doing good for yourself aren’t you.

2 11 2009
B

congrats on working your way up -sincerely

but somewhat less sincerely… apart from “not having time for” certain peoples of whatever category.. you also obviously don’t have time to check your grammar or spelling either..

maybe you could get a “snotty nosed uni student” to teach you how.
then the world will be your grammatically correct oyster

2 11 2009
Jodie

Middle-management? Check.

Seeing mediocrity and conformity as advantages? Check.

Appalling spelling and grammar? Check.

Slavish adoration of the flag and the Strayan way? Check.

Disdain for the educated or academically inclined? Check.

Rest assured, dear, that those “snotty-nosed uni students” are secretly laughing at you.

4 11 2009
B

of course we’re not. bogans like yourselves are necessary to make up the lower end of the corporate ladder.

can’t have leaders without minions now.

this is not to say that you won’t become an upper lvl player.
but general terms

3 11 2009
Well

Well said Shaun :)

24 11 2009
Tim2

Calm down Bogan. It’s humour. You know it as Umor.

2 12 2009
CD

That was beautiful.

24 05 2011
I Clavdivs

Where would the world be without them?

24 05 2011
I Clavdivs

Didactic middle managers that is…

2 11 2009
Non-bog

would i be correct in saying that the Bogan is the Australian version of a Chav?

2 11 2009
reality

not quite, chavs are more into shitbox cars and such

2 11 2009
B

and you’re saying bogan’s don’t like shitboxes?

24 12 2009
Ghengis

Chavs of both genders drive Barinas (Vauxhall Corsas) and French cars of the same size, enough said

2 11 2009
toon

No, not at all. Chavs are another underclass, but their habitat, their markings and ideology are completely different.
Chavs slug 440s of wife beater (Stella is a premium booze here..) and are more interested in cadging a smoke or a dollar off you…. breaking and entering, fucking your dog et al.

2 11 2009
Fenria

So Bogans ruined Cronulla, eh? Last I heard, it wasn’t Bogans harassing female lifeguards over their “nerve” to wear bathing suits and not burkas. What a bunch of self important snobs. I wonder how many hits this site would get it if was called “Things Abbos Like”, with the same kind of snide commentary.

2 11 2009
OPP

You should have started that comment with “I’m not racist but…”

2 11 2009
reality

whats the matter opp ? you dnt like the truth , keep an open mind things happen for a reason …

2 11 2009
Shaun

Well I have shown this site to a few mates; and we have decided the following.

This site is only there to humiliate, denigrate and vilify a section of the community inciting racial and social divisions based on education, religion or lack of, ethnic and economical status. Further as there is no way to confirm who the person is posting and where they are from there is a clear opportunity for sedition. The site clearly advocates marginalization and exclusion of sections of the community. This needs to examined and exposed as the hate mongering forum it is

With that in mind Im encourage Boagans and Anglo Aussies to lodge a complaint with ACMA… funny thing about the Australian softcock nanny commie government. You can make it work to your own ends….!

2 11 2009
rocknreptiles

You’re just pissed that your name made Ultimate Bogan names v1.8

2 11 2009
bec

If by “humiliate, denigrate and vilify” you mean “mock”, then yes. Yes it is.

Take one letter out of that acronym, and I’m pretty sure we have the real group you’re going to complain to. I’m not afraid – ever since Ray Martin left the show doesn’t even have teeth.

2 11 2009
reality

ooo your so courageous on a computer arnt you….

2 11 2009
bec

I’ll have you know that I am not – and never will be – in the possession of a ‘so courageous’. Kindly desist from those wild allegations, sir.

2 11 2009
MC Eating Disorder

You know if we were a bunch of smug intellectual pricks in any other country in the world we might actually have to make the argument that the flag is just a piece of material and doesn’t deserve the symbolic worship attached to it but these dudes and ladies have already done all the hard work for us throwing up cheap beer and bourbon on it at every BDO for the last five years so maybe we should be thankful and just leave it at that.

3 11 2009
bec

Years back I ran into some bogan at an Australia Day party who was wearing the cape around his backne-riddled shoulders. I suggested that he should tuck it into his undies, to which he replied “I would never disrespect our beautiful flag by doing that!”

Yeah, right, five tonnes of sebum across the union jack says otherwise, greasy.

3 11 2009
Jane

Australia is overun by racist bogans and the world is starting to realise it, tourism is going down the drain and no wonder with comments like these on the link here….

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/comments/0,21590,26292287-948,00.html

3 11 2009
Shaun

Yer but they have one thing going for them. Bogans are born and bread. They did not come here illegally on a boat. BTW- if you examine more closely and follow the racist attacks that have been happening this year especially in Melbourne you find that its other minority’s that have been committing the crimes in nearly all cases. Something thats lost on the media. Its Mainly middle eastern, Africans and in limited cases Asains Aussies. Something that has been conveniently lost in the softcock media and your peanut brain Jane.

Islanders vs Arabs
Asians vs Arabs
Africans vs anyone
Indians/Pakistani vs Africans
Indians/Pakistani vs the whole of StAlbans and Sunshine
Aussies and more to the point Bogans are less likely to engage minorities for the simple reason they are mostly indifferent and dont really care unless some dog like you wakes them. Join the Army Jane show some loyalty.

Prime Example
When a decent White Aussie came to the aid of someone being bashed this year by some dogs from Thailand they murdered him. Then the gutless dogs ran back to Thialand. The Thia government knows who they are but will not hand them back to be delt with. Your mates in the Labor government sit on their hands and do nothing. However a couple of curry munchers get based by Africans from Sudan and Brumby gets on a plane and goes over to India itself. Talk about a clear case of treason.

4 11 2009
B

someone please clarify this for me….
labor would more likely be on the bogan’s side no?

wouldn’t we snotty nosed uni brats be more liberal?

genuine question here…

5 11 2009
Kris

@ Shaun:

to quote you:

“born and bread”
“minority’s”
“Its Mainly middlle eastern”
“Asains”
“dont”
“Thialand”
“The Thia government”
“delt”

to (no doubt quote you again): “LOL”

6 11 2009
Shaun is the smartest man alive

Your claims seem to be unsupported by evidence. You are ignorant of the affairs of your own nation.

I understand that to somebody whose sole source of information is the media (likely the Daily Telegraph, amirite?) things may appear to be the way that you describe. You forget, sir, that the objective of a business is not to inform you and increase your awareness of the world, but to turn a profit. In fact, in lieu of this aim, it might be in their best interests to do the reverse of such a thing. Once upon a time, journalism was alright. Those days have long since past.

To say that most crime is perpetrated by immigrants is to ignore everything that the bureau of statistics has to say on the matter (crime statistics, in fact. indicate the opposite…). It is a charge as old as time – that foreigners are more likely to commit crimes. Every culture throughout history has said such things, are they ALL correct, or is it just you? I would expect something in the way of peer-reviewed research to back up this fascinating hypothesis.

An example for you to look up – look at the rate of rape committed by Occidental-Australians, and compare with the rate of rape committed by “white Australians”. The figures may shock you, but you’ll find as a woman, one is much more likely to be raped by a “born and bread, decent Aussie”. So much for your stance of cultural superiority.

News agencies sensationalise stories in order to get your dollar, and people are more likely to buy a story about a gang rape committed by some troubled western suburbs youth than one committed by a team of football players from Dundas or Bundaberg. They do not care about the trouble that arises from such vilifications, and they care not about legal repercussions because that can be swept under the rug by their highly paid team of solicitors.

I hope you come away from this message with a more critical mind. If not, then all is in vain.

24 11 2009
Tim2

Nice spelling Bogan.

3 11 2009
Media_Analyst

WTF Fenria?

That’s great that you believed a bunch of bullshit served to you by the Daily Telegraph and everything. But they printed an apology a few days later about how moslems weren’t actually the ones who did the bashings pre-riots at Cronulla. As for disgusting comments towards lifeguards: evidence, pls!

What you lack in intelligence and critical analysis skills, you more than make up for with enthusiasm. Nice try but have another go…

3 11 2009
Jodie

So, Shaun, where are you from? English is clearly not your first language…

Correct grammar is un-Austraaayyyyaaan, ay!

Bec- I like the way you think. :D

3 11 2009
reality

typical of a so called classy person , doesnt have a good comeback so resorts to mindless insults…

3 11 2009
Jodie

I’m educated, yes. I never claimed to be classy. ;p

3 11 2009
chris

it is true that bogans are ruining music festivals. they use to be about music and enjoying a couple of days with your friends. now the ‘bogans’ have ruined them.

the guy bogans bring their bullshit bravado and footy mentality which a lot of the time impinges on the liberty of other festival goers. they have no regard for others.

also, at what stage did adorning yourself in hyper-nationalistic warpaint become the sign of national pride? and at what stage did speaking against this worrying trend become inherently un-australian???

please stay away from music festivals if you can’t enjoy it without pissing off others!

4 11 2009
brad

shaun you are of too much sound mind to be on this site,but kudos to you ,i also love feeding shit sandwiches to soft cock know it alls who have delusional,adolescent ideals and know nothing about who and what keeps the wheels turning in this country.I work in the building industry where pragmatic thinking and being ruthless are of the utmost importance.Always makes me laugh when you see these soft fuckers tremble in fear and shock when they are given the mail about how useless they are,these soft cocks couldnt survive without so called bogans who do the hard and dirty jobs they turn turn there collective noses up at. This site is obviously a forum for testicular challenged leftoids to chicken shit to voice there petty prejudices in the real world as they know they would get they’re heads caved in!

4 11 2009
bec

You left these out of your rant:

….”;,.,”;;”!!(

It’s called punctuation. And your kind have the nerve to accuse immigrants of poor English.

4 11 2009
brad

is that the best you can do bec? obviously hit a nerve there and what the hell do immigrants have to do with the price of fish and chips ha ha

4 11 2009
bec

I was offended that you had the gall to point out the obvious: that I am clearly testicularly challenged. Do I need to buy trucknutz to compensate or am I destined to roam the earth bemoaning my lack of dangly-bits?

4 11 2009
Duncan

The BDO is something I no longer go to. Not just because they usually get shit bands these days (though 2010 looks ok), but also because of all the tools who go because it’s the cool thing to do.

5 11 2009
brad

not as obvious as you think,its an euphuism for people with no ticker(er that means heart)

5 11 2009
chris

brad i would just stop now. you look like a bit of a dill.

and every time you use phrases like “head’s caved in” and such, you only open yourself up for the whole world to see what an immature and small minded creature you are.

also, please watch the grammar. how many times do people have to point it out before you do something about it?

6 11 2009
brad

why always back to the grammer? if thats not petty and small minded i dont know what is,as for sledge hammer comments i find it the best way to get a point across to someone who has there head up their rear end;if you are going to post why not actually make a topical comment instead just stating observations about other peoples posts

6 11 2009
Bravo, Brad

Bravo indeed, sir. You are the reason our finest minds leave this country. How is one to flourish scientifically or in the humanities, when one is constantly depressed by the rantings of feeble-minded internet tough-guys as yourself? Keep your mouth shut, for the future of our nation. We are trying to foster a stronger, smarter nation. It is startling that a man as nationalistic as yourself can’t even help us do this by as simple a means as staying out of a debate he has nothing to contribute to.

6 11 2009
brad

kudos too you to “whats ya name” very well constructed recant,but of coarse you just stoop too personel attacks(like a cyber bully does).Let me explain my rant dear chap,i find it quite amusing that people of left leaning idealogy are so quick to shoot down anyone who questions certain real life realitys that oppose their blinkered veiw of the world(ref: media watch post) as i recall large groups of young males from the targeted ethnic group of the cronulla riots went on quite a rampage in the eastern suburbs of Sydney,why is that?Where they outraged-of course,victims of anglo racism-that seems to be the general concenses of left minded people.But look at it from the veiw point of the victims of this revenge attack and countless ones before which led to the whole situation,do you think they give a shit about so called voice of reason mumblings about fostering a stronger,smarter nation.The thing is my friend i live in a world(and a lot more than think) where the luxurey of being tolerant,fairminded and idealistic about all things noble is not only a pipe dream,but fucking deadly,that is why i get pissed when some goose who lets say has obviously not had the same life experiences as myself tells me how to make a shit sandwich and eat too,thus this might help illistrate to you the reason behind my ramblings.Also i just like a good shit stir! ha ha

11 11 2009
To Brad

FFS, use paragraphs!

14 11 2009
bec

And spaces after your commas! There isn’t a punctuation quota, you know.

6 11 2009
r.jett

This is all so funny! So a group of people who are whinging about music festivals being infested by bogans. Wake up! It’s the bloody organisers of the festivals that change their lineup to include more mainstream acts that attracts the bogans. That’s why i gave up on the B.D.O back in 94, and Meredith about 2003 for example. Part of the main problem and here is greed from promoters looking to get huge crowds via the mainstream market and cashed up bogans who can afford it. Still giggling at bogans thinking just because they went to a private school and have money, they somehow escape the class of bogan. Some of the most irritating classic bogans are from private schools. They are the ones that think they have a god given right to be tools because they have sense of ‘entitlement’. Which is worse than the average bogan. Sad thing is that often alot of these tools end up as members of council, state and federal parliament, lawyers, and chairmen of large companies. I mean, there is the ignorant bogan, who knows no better. Then there is the bogan that KNOWS the facts and yet stays on the same track regardless.

7 11 2009
chris

please stop ruining our music festivals, brad.

7 11 2009
Pete

I’d be happy if it just stopped posting every time some moronic idea crosses it’s mind (ie. very frequently).

Which reminds me, a topic surely worthy of inclusion is: “The Bogan – Speaking Before It Thinks”.

7 11 2009
brad

bite off more than you can chew,then chew like fuck you flog

7 11 2009
Pete

And yet it continues to comment uninvitedly as though it is not an oxygen thief.

Suggested Topic: “The Bogan: Compensation By Way Of Vulgarity In Lieu Of Intelligence”.

7 11 2009
brad

ha ha define intelligenge pete you seem to have a monoply on it

13 11 2009
Kris

I second this Pete. Great suggestion for an upcoming topic!

7 11 2009
Jodie

Amen, Pete. I think it was Henry Kissinger who referred to the dysgenic “useless eaters”.

7 11 2009
brad

ah “the quote” i am well out of my leage now,shit,you do know that Henry Kissinger was the secatary of state in the Nixon administration that payrolled the Vietnam War at its height with no prejiduce?

7 11 2009
Jodie

Your point being? I don’t recall having placed any moral value judgment, positive or negative, on the quote I made.

7 11 2009
brad

Why would you quote someone unless there words touched a nerve in you,i dont get it?

7 11 2009
Jodie

Yes, the expression itself. It’s irrelevant who said it. I was just remarking that I thought it was Kissinger. Could well have been somebody else.

7 11 2009
brad

Thats cool should have just said it yourself(i would know no better) instead of bring henry into the equation,but being called “a useless eater” is very below me i would prefer pest,pain in the butt,blowfly even parasite if you may but the point is Jodie its good to disagree and even have cheapshots keeps ya tuned too what your passionate obout…………REPLY

7 11 2009
Jodie

You know, Brad, it occurs to me…. This back and forth trolling’s kind of pointless. We’re probably both a lot nicer in real life.

9 11 2009
Lee

At last some reasonable thinking…..

8 11 2009
brad

agree another place another time

8 11 2009
chris of south yarra

your both bogan pussies…and brad man do you sound like a bitch ROFL

9 11 2009
Lee

At least he showed a bit of heart and remained unflappable, the best you lot could come up with was smug snickering over his grammar.

9 11 2009
brad

cheers lee werkin on the grammer!

9 11 2009
Lee

We’ll learn ya how to talk proper one day mate

8 11 2009
brad

Chris of south yarrra fuck off and annoy fiona(lol) of toorak,who knows? if you can pool together your collective iqs you may end up with a figure just below average,then maybe,just maybe you can think of more more abbreviations-heres one to get you started POQ

8 11 2009
chris of south yarra

oh please dont be silly i dont venture outside the wire on a day over 30 degrees…

10 11 2009
festivalplanet

Its going to be a long winter until the summer festival season starts again.But roll on 2010, its going to be a great music festival year! No Bogans please! ;-)

10 11 2009
BoganHater

As someone who stopped attending BDOs in 96 (went too mainstream), I am so sad to see that the place is being taken over by the Australian flag. its not the olympics guys!!
Who bloody cares if you’re Australian.

And isn’t it fairly obvious your Australian if you’re at the f**ing BDO? I mean its not the Burning Man or Roskilde.

11 11 2009
Tim

I actually wrote to this site http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/, which has the regulations regarding the use of the Australian flag and other symbols, this is the answer I got back:
There are no specific rules or law regarding the use of the Australian National Flag as an article of clothing or tattoo, or on respect or loyalty for the flag.

The following guidelines for the use of the Australian National Flag for commercial or advertising purposes may assist when using the flag or the image of the flag for other purposes:
– the flag is used in a dignified manner and reproduced completely and accurately
– it should not be defaced by overprinting with words or illustrations
– it should not be covered by other objects in displays
– all symbolic parts of the flag should be identifiable.

17 11 2009
zaynab

1. I wonder how the people of Bogan, New South Wales feel about all this.
That’s right, it is a place. A small place, albeit a home to some.

2. I grew up at Festivals. With my parents. Yep, how often do we see that anymore? I would call anyone crazy to bring their child to (say), Bluesfest now – as the last time I went – I witnessed fighting, extreme unnecessary patriotic behavior and discrediting actions towards others not aligned to a ‘sect’. Sure, BDO isn’t a ‘Family’ event – There’s bullshit music and lots of intoxicated fuck sticks – But i treat all my friends like family and don’t expect anyone to PAY for a shitty experience when all they wanted to do was enjoy some music.

3. Festivals SHOULD be about Music, Fun, Memories and most importantly – Community (ie People. ie ALL people. Because, you know – we all breathe, eat and shit. We’re not all that Different). Instead, festivals are now about Money, Popularity – Milking a certain Demographic – (attendance also makes for plausible cause in overpopulating a certain area,) and… oh right, Money.

4. Everyone has a right to be who they are. Fair enough, as long as they do not harm others (people of all different creeds. I also include animals in ‘others’) and the land. This is called Harmony; Equality. Sure, sounds like Utopia and I’m not sure if that is actually achievable in Western Society. Ah, I digress. Anyhow, if we take in to account that everything should be respected and not harmed, this World would be that Utopia. But I’m also a realist. So this debate could go on and one like a figure 8. Bottom line, there is no need to be oppressing (in reference to the satirical comment made in the article – “to intimidate foreign-looking people into kissing the Australian flag.”). Same reason I do not agree with JWs hassling me on a beautiful Sunday morning when I am happily sleeping. I don’t like their ways and I don’t agree with their beliefs, but I respect them for being a living, breathing human nonetheless. I do not think their act of door knocking is really acceptable, just like I don’t feel the need to see our useless union jack and southern cross draped around people at a music festival.

4. Alcohol plays a hugely blamable part in this “Boganisming”.
Just like weed and dreads play a huge blamable part in “Hippyisming”.

5. Has anyone read John Marsdon’s “When the War Began” Series?
Here’s some Maths.

SQ KM Area of Great Britian = 244,820
Population (of just people!) = 61,399,118 (Let’s just round that up to 61 MILLION.)

SQ KM Area of Australia = 7,617,930 (Shit! That’s a bit bigger, isn’t it?!?)
Population (of just people!) = 21.4 MILLION. Wow…

*Note ” and ” mean I quote. Quote who? Not me. Although above statement’s gist is correct. England landed, said “Mine! Oh wow, look at those creatures, they can’t possibly be human which means they can’t possibly have society. OK, i’ll dress one up, take him back to London to make a mockery of him then let him die in impure air. OK, back to what I’ve claimed MINE and to cleanse MY new country of the creatures that are not human.”

7. My conclusion = my 6 points = opinion/fact = take what you want from it but stay off my door step on my beautiful Sunday morning if you’re only going to hassle me with the useless flag at the music festival I paid to enjoy MUSIC at.

(Grammatically correct? You tell me.)

/end rant.

23 11 2009
Tom2

Gosh… this is an entertaining read indeed.

As much as I enjoy bathing in the glory of the perpetual victory of intelligence over ignorance, I can’t help feeling sorry for the proud bogans in this dialogue.

25 11 2009
Kat

Teenagers are bogans by default. It is a rare teen that displays no bogan traits. Later on they grow out of it … or not.

21 12 2009
#52 – Telethons « Things Bogans Like

[...] is to incorporate charity into music festivals. Here the bands play for free (glitz trigger), the bogans can ruin an event (exhibitionism trigger), it can be rebroadcast on TV (commercial TV trigger), and Peter [...]

29 12 2009
h

sadly i have given up on most music festivals for this very reason. Sweaty beefed up metros groping me is not what i consider to be a good time. Luckily there is still one festival which is the least bogan filled. Emos, metal heads, yes but the bogans are few and far between as they dont have a clue about the music played there. Soundwave. I cant wait to go to a festival without shirtless douche bags and their equally annoying girlfriends who can often also be seen without a top or their butt cheeks hanging out of their denim shorts. It always frustrates me when bogans ask me if i am going to one of these dance music festivals and i reply by asking ” who are you going to see” and they reply “noone really, i dont really know whos going im just going for the fun of it.” I will never understand what is so fun about paying over a hundred dollars and a lot more if you factor in alcohol to bop around shirtless to an act you have never heart before?

17 03 2010
x

The killer for music festivals for me is the bogans they put on stage.

Bring me an Australian band I will show you a bunch of talent less bogans
that really believe they sound like some overseas band they can not even pronounce.

All this takes me back many years, I remember sitting with friends and suggesting that a large wall be built around the suburb of Elizabeth (South Australia) and then filling it with water.
If only they listened to me we could have held off this bogan epidemic for a few years.

22 10 2010
Marty

You don’t like any Australian bands?

5 01 2011
Nine

Dude you are full of S$%^ – there are a zillion amazing Aussie bands around right now. Boy & Bear, Cloud Control, Angus & Julia, Washington? Thats just a few…

2 06 2010
Meeks

God I miss the days where I could buy my Big Day Out ticket the day BEFORE the festival with the comfort of knowing that it wouldn’t be sold out. Back then ‘alternative’ music wasn’t as integrated into the mainstream bogan/ fashion culture as it is today. Kudos to all of the major music festival event organisers whose PR/advertising departments have finally succeeded at making these types of events “cool” to the masses. Oh and while I’m at it: fuck you Triple J. You too have changed. You used to be about the music.

30 06 2010
Anthony

My first Big Day Out was 1999, Marylin Manson headlining, it was a freak fest and the vibe amoungst the crowd was wonderful. The following year I saw a bunch of dickheads jumping the fence and later saw the very same people in the mosh being fuckwits, getting rough and throwing bottles. In 2001 I really noticed the difference in people attending. I remember seeing some punky gothy types being teased by a bunch of hard ass biker looking dudes, and I also remember the bass player from Placebo having bottles of water hurled at him because he was wearing a dress. The years that followed the BDO became a fucking bogan fest and that feeling of community amoungst the freaks was lost forever. Fuck bogans, just fuck them. They’ve infultrated everything.

7 10 2010
Doug

Gee, there are some uptight hoity toity types in here. I think you guys need a high class dildo to ease your stress and take your mind off punctuation. Then get out doors and do some community work. Start living like a person not a queenie.

15 10 2010
Rosie

Indie is popular and mainstream now.

26 11 2010
A bogan

My god get a life!

1 12 2010
Katie

I’m not a bogan, but I do admit to going to festivals when I don’t really know anyone on the line up. And why not? I get to experience music I wouldn’t normally listen to, maybe discover a few new bands, plus enjoy the festival atmosphere.

There’s no need to be elitist about music. If you think the music is good, then why wouldn’t you want people who don’t fit the ‘indie/lacking complete originality’ look enjoying it too?

Some friends of mine came to Soundwave last year with me who had never heard of any of the bands. And I was pleased, because it gave them a chance to hear music they hadn’t before. I didn’t get worked up about it, or judge them because they hadn’t heard of any of the bands.

People who become snobby about music, or laugh at people because they didn’t hear of bands until after them (seriously, how does that make you at all superior?), need to take a serious look at the way they treat people.

What happened to live and let live?

5 01 2011
Mel

Katie, I dont think its people like you who just go and actually catch some bands that everyone is talking about – its the losers who band together a bunch of their equally tool-headed mates to head to a festival only to spend then entire time on drugs, annoying anyone there who actually wants to see a band, and will go home and not remember any of it. They simply go to just be there. Which I have never understood, because why not just go camping with your mates and save $400 each?

17 01 2011
p'bee

exactly. it’s the people who go to festivals or concerts to photograph themselves, rather than see the band(s) who ruin it, not someone going to hear something new and different.

15 12 2010
Tone

Could the security company responsible for crowd control at Stereosonic be in favour of culling bogans? The only flaw in the plan is that melanoma takes ages to get the desired result.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/anger-over-seizure-of-sunscreen-at-festival-20101214-18wt5.html

13 01 2011
Victoria

Note to Bogans. The rest of the world don’t give a damm about Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi.

13 01 2011
Victoria

There is nothing more dangerous than a pack of bogans with Southern Cross tattoos & an Australian flag wrapped around them and a skin full of booze.

17 01 2011
The Bogan from 'Berra

Does urinating on the ground count as ruining a festival? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9CaJpWAbEY

24 01 2011
ah

Is it even possible to ruin Summadayze? Is there anything of worth to ruin?

9 08 2011
berp

This whole thread is just like, ‘you’re a bogan!’ ‘no you are!’ ‘no you are!’ etc., but all the while trying to sound more intelligent than other people… it’s getting a bit silly. There isn’t really a definition for ‘bogan’, and everyone seems to have a different idea of it. So i think everyone should stop fighting about it

13 08 2011
French tickler

I was at Lollapalooza in Chicago last year and was horrified to see Bogans draped in the “Aussie’ flag. My travel mate and I got into an argument with a couple of flag wearers during the Wolfmother concert (we were waiting for Soundgarden). They were showing their Aussie pride, they said. We said that since when is a flag a fashion accessory?

2 04 2012
s

I thought this was a BDO thing until I went to Soundwave Festival this year. If I wanted to go to sleep I could’ve counted SC tatts instead of sheep.

7 10 2014
Liam

Riiiiiiight! Not one to generalise obviously! The morally superior indoctrinated leftist has an answer for everything,that despite being a little loose with the truth or let’s just say leaving the crucial points out of the story. Obviously the only people who are racist are white people because the abc told you so or was it your university? Either way It just sounds like your superior when you say it. The leftist hides behind his or her own intellectual deficits by pointing out how superior they are.What they lack is perspective and any kind of ideological mirror for some serious self reflection and or a perspective of how the world works as opposed to the fairy tales they have been indoctrinated with! Leftism is a quagmire of hypocrisy and insanity. Give me a bogan over a leftist any day,at least they god damn stand for something worthwhile!

That’s some good generalising, for someone who dislikes generalising so much. TBL

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